The pfm Massive's mantra is to negatively slant anything towards blaming the government (or the police) for all the ills of life
Why do I need the opportunity to shop for 15 hours per day in non essential shops?
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The pfm Massive's mantra is to negatively slant anything towards blaming the government (or the police) for all the ills of life
Del monaco
Del Monaco
Gives time for shoppers to choose their times to avoid clustering etc. Gives opportunity to shift stock that’s been lying around for months. Gives choice to consumers.
It’s laughable. If shop is open 15 hours doesn’t mean the same staff are working all the way through. Pubs can basically open for as long as they want in normal times, they tend to decide their own hours & even close on some days - how dare they etcThe pfm Massive's mantra is to negatively slant anything towards blaming the government (or the police) for all the ills of life
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
I think the OP asks the wrong question. Rather than ‘why is X being permitted?’ the obvious question, surely, is ‘why does X need to be restricted?’It’s laughable. If shop is open 15 hours doesn’t mean the same staff are working all the way through. Pubs can basically open for as long as they want in normal times, they tend to decide their own hours & even close on some days - how dare they etc
Covid regulations are restrictive; aside from employee hours limits, the state should not interfere with any businesses’ right to opening hours to suit their own needs. So when the Covid need no longer requires the restriction, it must go. Otherwise, the state is overreaching.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
I’ve always wondered what and who the ‘pfm massive’ is, it appears it is those who have contributed to this thread! They should all be ashamed of themselves?The pfm Massive's mantra is to negatively slant anything towards blaming the government (or the police) for all the ills of life
Hopefully subject to some sensible local council planning enforcement/restrictions, with due consideration for those people who live around and above places of business.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
Well, I admit the restrictions do mean I’ve put on a pound or three, but I think ‘massive’ is a bit strong, if I’m honest.
Andrew C!
Been around a while....
My local Asda is very quiet at 7.45pm on a Saturday evening. A good time for shopping if you want to avoid the crowds(we do online, but sometimes need to get essentials). If I can support local shops, but also go in when its non-peak times, that will do nicely thanks.
Something I heard about Norway:
They still have(had?) strict rules on when shops can be open, non covid related, (not on sundays and not in evenings). Some years ago the politicians suggested it should be deregulated. Guess who complained? The shops. It's an extra cost to have people working in the evenings, and honestly, why would you sell more?
They still have(had?) strict rules on when shops can be open, non covid related, (not on sundays and not in evenings). Some years ago the politicians suggested it should be deregulated. Guess who complained? The shops. It's an extra cost to have people working in the evenings, and honestly, why would you sell more?
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
I work ‘normal’ hours. The shops are open while I’m at work. So that leaves the weekends, when everyone else goes too, because they were at work Monday to Friday, normal hours.
Have you been to a U.K. high street on a Monday or Tuesday morning (pre Covid)? Pretty dead. Allow them to decide for themselves how they should try it out, surely.
If I owned a shop with a couple of employees who really wanted the business to survive, I’m sure one or two late evenings per week with a couple of late openings would be fine.
Unfortunately the poor sods on minimum wages will end up being forced to work antisocial hours. Nothing will be said officially but the supermarkets make it very clear to staff that they are out the door if they don’t do as they are told. Seen it in action when I briefly worked for a large supermarket. Added to this is the availability of loads of people without jobs so they can pick and choose.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
The supermarkets can be open 24 hours already, except Sunday.
Some choose to work abnormal hours, it wasn't a problem when we had 24 hour opening. I'm sure it's totally illegal to force anyone to do it and overtime after 40 hours is a WTD rule?
Must say lockdown has had zero effect on my shopping habits; i won't miss any of that c### stuck in the Suez.
colasblue
pfm Member
I certainly think a lot of retailers ought to think long and hard about what they consider to be their "normal hours".
As others have said 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday is probably the least effective time to be open for most of them.
15:00 to 22:00 Monday to Friday would probably work a whole lot better.
I can't imagine many of them will be willing or able to pay even minimum wage over 15 hour days to staff mostly empty shops!
Other countries around the world have a substantially different approach, Eg in Malaysia & Singapore 11:00 to 22:00 seems to be the retail norm and it seems to work very well alongside the more normal hours for other businesses.
As others have said 09:00 to 17:00 Monday to Friday is probably the least effective time to be open for most of them.
15:00 to 22:00 Monday to Friday would probably work a whole lot better.
I can't imagine many of them will be willing or able to pay even minimum wage over 15 hour days to staff mostly empty shops!
Other countries around the world have a substantially different approach, Eg in Malaysia & Singapore 11:00 to 22:00 seems to be the retail norm and it seems to work very well alongside the more normal hours for other businesses.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Is that mainly to avoid the hotter and more humid times of the day?
Saudi used to be 9 til 12, and 4 ish til rate, just for that reason.
Mm, retailers eh, the vast majority of them really know what they are doing. Make big profits, keep supplying us food & essential goods. The rotters.
Morrisons recently pledged to pay staff £10 an hour, obviously that’s small beer for the vast majority on here but welcome to those less fortunate.
Can we make sure that someone posts a picture of people queuing outside Primark so we can all feel a little superior? These people & their shopping eh? Bet they’ve never even heard an LP12
Morrisons recently pledged to pay staff £10 an hour, obviously that’s small beer for the vast majority on here but welcome to those less fortunate.
Can we make sure that someone posts a picture of people queuing outside Primark so we can all feel a little superior? These people & their shopping eh? Bet they’ve never even heard an LP12