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Which Classic Amplification?

Discussion in 'audio' started by ASenna04, Sep 26, 2021.

?

Which Brand

  1. Naim

    23.1%
  2. Meridian

    5.8%
  3. Quad

    32.7%
  4. Linn

    11.5%
  5. Other - Please state

    42.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Charlie_1

    Charlie_1 pfm Member

    Agreed - some of the Naim kit mentioned above (e.g. 42/110) is over 40 years old and apparently still too young to be classic HiFi?

    Julian was making bolt down 160s over 50 years ago and the 250 is 46 years old

    Linn Wakonda/LK140 ceased production in 2006 so that's fair enough
     
  2. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    My grandma was a classic (for me)
     
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  3. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Unquestionably. It’s impossible to think of designs such as the LP12, Planar 3, SL1200, Gyrodeck, ‘chrome-bumper’ Naim, early Audio Research, Krell, Conrad Johnson, Mark Levinson, early Maggies, Apogees, LS3/5As, silver-face Pioneer, Marantz etc as anything other than classics. If people are still talking about a hi-fi product and actively seeking out good examples on the second hand market 30, 40 or more years later it is a classic, simple as that. Some are still in production too, e.g. SME V, Gyro, LP12 etc.
     
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  4. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Garrard 401/SME 3009/V15 - QUAD 33/303 - QUAD ESL57s. Now that is Classic!
     
    rstloup and boon like this.
  5. gustav_errata

    gustav_errata pfm Member

    So in the year 2099, will only pre-1940 equipment still be antique?

    "Complete nonsense."
     
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  6. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Probably, as 99% of Hifi made after 2000 will long be in land fill…
     
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  7. Jezzer

    Jezzer eats shoots and leaves

    Harman Kardon, Luxman….
     
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  8. crimsondonkey

    crimsondonkey pfm Member

    Wot no high end Jap stuff from the 70s/ 80s?
     
  9. gustav_errata

    gustav_errata pfm Member

    In which case an extant amp from 1999 would be modern kids' stuff, all bells and whistles and still 40 years shy of "classic" status, let alone "antique" status at a sprightly 100 years of age?
     
  10. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    FWIW part of my decision process for buying the Pass Aleph 3 class A amp I landed recently it’s just hovering just on the brink of ‘classic’ status and is likely not any financial risk to own long-term. It may even prove an investment. Whilst only 25 years old it is an innovative and highly rated early amp from one of the most respected current high-end designers, and most importantly it is reliable, remarkably simple, and fully documented with the full schematic freely available. I’ve already fully recapped it so it should have a long life ahead. Maybe not a classic right this minute, but I suspect it will be in time.
     
  11. boon

    boon pfm Member

    And I expect that 1% will be the solar powered LP12 sungo
     
  12. herb

    herb music live

    And what rubbish it was back in 1974,

    Garrard 401 rumbled - it needed a proper plinth
    SME 3009 was too lightweight for a decent cart
    V15 was so undynamic it made classical music a dirge
    Quad 33 was poor until you hit the CANCEL button
    Quad 303 was excellent into ESLs despite dealer recommendations
    ESL57s fantastic once you put them on lightweight rigid spiked stands

    FM radio was great with a big Japanese tuner and reel to reel Akai deck, that was where the real action was:)

    Old amps - Exposure 6/7/8 gets my vote after 20 years trouble free service
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2021
  13. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    I understand that you don't consider kit from the 70s to be classic, but the OP might well do. If so, he should steer well clear of the 70s Leak sold state amps. They were all stinkers even when new! Now the older valve kit.... a different matter entirely!
     
  14. dogscanskate

    dogscanskate New Member

    Nobody has mentioned Nytech and Crimson and the wonderful A&R Cambridge A 60.
     
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  15. James

    James Lord of the Erg\o/s

    I'm still kicking myself for missing out on a Pioneer PLC-590 turntable to go with my Pioneer C-21/M-22 class A amp and Yamaha NS-1000M combo.
     
  16. Gervais Cote

    Gervais Cote Predator

    +1 for the A60, wonderful wooden music box !
     
  17. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    The Leak Stereo 30 and 70 were good amplifiers in the day. However, when the Rank Organisation bought Leak in the 1970s the emphasis was on the aesthetics. I do remember some of their receivers were quite good though, maybe not quite as good as Rotel, but not far short.
     
  18. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    If I recall correctly, the Delta 70 replaced the Stereo 70 in the early 70s but that the circuitry behind the facias was the same. A friend had the Delta 70 at the time and it was unreliable and dull sounding. Not a patch on the contemporary Quad 33/303 or, for that matter, Rogers Ravensbourne (which I recall sounded far better). As for build quality, I'm not surprised that very few of these Leak amps have survived, whereas there is a plentiful supply of 303/33 combos and, for that matter, contemporary Rotels, Sonys, Kenwood/Trios and other well made far eastern amps.

    Maybe the earlier pre-Rank amps used better quality components, I don't know!
     
  19. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    IIRC some of the later Rank ones actually were Rotels!
     
  20. Curtis

    Curtis pfm Member

    By 2099 we will all be landfill as far as Insulate Britain activists are concerned.
     
    G T Audio likes this.

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