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What's good on the Hatology label?

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Kit Taylor

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Phwoar, Amazon.co.uk list over 100 albums on the mighty prog-improv-avant jazz label. Look at that cover art!

I fancy grabbing a few titles.

I have the:

Max Roach and Anthony Braxton - monster prog epic and dead atmospheric. Terribly excessive. Love love love. Max Roach RIP genius, etc.

Hans Bennick (?) and Myra Melford - dreary avant garde cobblers.

Jimmy Giuffre - minimalist and abstract, quite good and ambient, not listened to it much but want to dig it out now.

Cecil Taylor Unit - intense if a bit dry, my memory is faint so must listen again soon.

Dave Douglas Tiny Bell Trio - cartoony and wild and jolly. Bill Frisell ADD childish sort of thing with trumpet.

Any suggestions? No such thing as too much percussion.

TIA
 
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You're wrong about the great Han Bennink, the third best drummer ever, but I'll let it pass :)

This 4 CD-er is among my favourite soprano sax/piano duo music:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00008Y18C/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21

This is a classic of furious European improv:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00004ZD5G/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21

This is a very good Braxton record:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00070FVRA/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21

This is a very fine Sun Ra record:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00005REQG/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21

Also, you need all the Steve Lacy Hatology releases, and all the Cecil Taylor too (there's only about 3 of the latter, the one you already have, The Eighth, and It is in the Brewing Luminous).

-- Ian
 
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clicked on the "sun ra" for more laughs and, from the "customers who bought this item also bought...", i think i've inadvertently come across the best album cover of all time:

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vuk.
 
On The Corner itself is not a favourite of mine, but there's some great music on that box, Vuk. Even better, the covered is embossed metal, so various parts of the anatomy stick out (you can guess which).

You would hate the music, that goes without saying.

-- Ian
 
sideshowbob said:
Even better, the covered is embossed metal, so various parts of the anatomy stick out (you can guess which)

....

You would hate the music, that goes without saying.
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i do have a small collection of naughty/funny records acquired merely because of the cover art (or vinyl image), so the quality of the music is not an issue. i shall check it out.

i would like to offer a tip in return (some great new chamber music), but you would probably hate it.


vuk.
 
sideshowbob said:
I have lots of contemporary chamber music. Feel free to tip.
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ha, ha. perhaps i spoke too flippantly. the work in question is something i heard on the radio a couple of weeks ago and picked up the other day. it's by golijov and called "tenebrae." the host misrepresented the bloody thing and it's actually only a small part of this CD: http://www.hbdirect.com/album_detail.php?pid=990023

reminiscent of shostakovitch with a touch of minimalist influence. on the whole, it may be a little too sentimental for you. as for the rest of the CD, the title piece "oceana" is truly awful--reminds me of that world meets classical latino-earth-requiem-whatever choral thing from a decade ago. hey, you might like it! the 3 songs (done by dawn upshaw) are sort of OK, but a bit too schmaltzy and hint way too much at that utter ****er gorecki).

something contemporary, though not chamber, that i can suggest without any reservation are hymns 2 and 3 by nikolai korndorf. the bastards at sony discontinued it recently, so you may have to look for a second-hand copy to try out. i'd be glad to rip it for you, if you are interested.

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx...+Korndorf+Hymn+II+and+III+/+Lazarev,+Bott.htm



vuk.
 
Research suggests you were right the first time; I have a feeling I may not like Golijov, even without hearing him :)

I'll give the Korndorf a go, Amazon have some secondhand copies. If I don't like it, I won't hold it against you. He's completely new to me, so at least I have no preconceptions.

-- Ian
 
sideshowbob said:
Research suggests you were right the first time; I have a feeling I may not like Golijov, even without hearing him :)
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based on this CD, i don't like him either! looking for him on the web has made it all worse. now i don;t know if i'll be able to enjoy the little chamber piece--it also has going against it the trendy kronos quartet playing.


I'll give the Korndorf a go, Amazon have some secondhand copies. If I don't like it, I won't hold it against you. He's completely new to me, so at least I have no preconceptions.
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your perceptions will ultimately settle many issues ;-)


btw--here's something old but different. i'm curious if you like it...

http://qstatistic.com/00/01-Allegro.mp3

(let me know when/if you've grabbed it--i don't want to leave the link up because of size and other concerns)


vuk.
 
It's very pretty, but not really my thing. I'm guessing if it isn't Mozart it's somebody who's listened to Mozart a lot.

-- Ian
 
sideshowbob said:
It's very pretty, but not really my thing. I'm guessing if it isn't Mozart it's somebody who's listened to Mozart a lot.
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some people consider it one of the greatest works ever composed ;-)

it's the first movement of mozart's clarinet quintet played by an ensemble led by sigiswald kuijken on period instruments. mozart is deceptively pretty.


vuk.

p.s. i'm going to leave the link up for a bit longer, in case someone else wants to check it out. it's not as if the music room has any traffic.
 
sideshowbob said:
I prefer a bit more sturm und drang, that's why I post on PFM :)
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well then, surely the bruckner 8th or 9th is your favourite classical and we can finally agree about something being good? please don't tell me you're a mahler man (although i like mahler 3 months out of the year).

vuk.
 
Cheers Vuk, just what I needed as I get ready for work on a sunday night.

SSB: sounds like a string track from the Beatles circa 1966 to me. Just imagine Lennon/Macca's tones on top of it : >

Kevin
 
Favourite classical, that's a difficult one. Probably Beethoven's Grosse Fugue. I have no Bruckner and no Mahler, oddly enough.

-- Ian
 
Kit Taylor said:
Phwoar, Amazon.co.uk list over 100 albums on the mighty prog-improv-avant jazz label. Look at that cover art!

I fancy grabbing a few titles.

I have the:

Max Roach and Anthony Braxton - monster prog epic and dead atmospheric. Terribly excessive. Love love love. Max Roach RIP genius, etc.

Hans Bennick (?) and Myra Melford - dreary avant garde cobblers.

Jimmy Giuffre - minimalist and abstract, quite good and ambient, not listened to it much but want to dig it out now.

Cecil Taylor Unit - intense if a bit dry, my memory is faint so must listen again soon.

Dave Douglas Tiny Bell Trio - cartoony and wild and jolly. Bill Frisell ADD childish sort of thing with trumpet.

Any suggestions? No such thing as too much percussion.

TIA
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I love Dave Douglas and the Tiny Bell trio records are amongst his best. saw Brad Shepik, the guitarist in the Tiny Bell, in a bar in Oxford a few weeks back with some muppet called Joel Harrison. He's a fine player who needs to look for better company.
I've been tempted by the Warne Marsh records a few times and some of the Braxtons. On occasions Jazz Loft have an offer on the Hat Catalogue. Might be worth a look here:
http://www.jazzloft.com/c-22-hat-hut.aspx

One Too Many Salty Swift for $12 can't be bad.

Kevin


kevin

Kevin
 
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I would recommend "The Multiplication Table" by Matthew Shipp, which is on Hat records.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000024ZC3/?tag=pinkfishmedia-20

It is very boisterous music; really knotty and quite free, but also very melodic (in places, particularly the version of "Autumn Leaves") and pretty swinging too. The percussion by Susie Ibarra is very prominent, and she and William Parker seem to be having a lot of fun together.

vuk,

Thank you for posting the Clarinet Quintet. I haven't listened to it for ages. I'm going to go and dig out my copy now and listen to it all the way through.
Have you heard the recording of Thea King playing it with the Gabrieli quartet? It is stonking.
I saw them perform it at the Queen Elizabeth Hall about 15 years ago and I still have a very vivid memory of it.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000002ZIY/?tag=pinkfishmedia-20

Ben.
 
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