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What sort of discount for "ex-demo"?

Discussion in 'audio' started by Tryant, Oct 24, 2020.

  1. Tryant

    Tryant pfm Member

    What sort of discount should be expected for buying "ex-demo"? Is there a standard discount or does this vary a lot? Ta
  2. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Something around 25% would be "normal", based on my buyer's memory.

    Like anything in life though - it will be at the seller's discretion, and near certainly depend on the full price, new - cheap new ain't going to be giveaway ex-dem'.
  3. colasblue

    colasblue pfm Member

    Hugely variable.

    Depends on

    How popular the item is
    How old the dem one is
    What condition it's in
    Whether it's still current spec
    Used prices for similar items
    What the dealer mark up is
    How expensive it is
    What guarantees it comes with
    Who the manufacturer is and their support levels

    You'd be lucky to get 10% to 15% off a popular current spec budget item but I've had 50% off discontinued things.
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  4. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Depends on condition above all else. I got a £2k pair of speakers for less than a quarter of that because one had a corner off. The price kept falling, nobody bit.
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  5. Strictly Stereo

    Strictly Stereo Trade: Strictly Stereo

    Assuming that the equipment is in good condition then 10-15% off list.
  6. Olsen

    Olsen pfm Member

    Certainly no standard.
    Depends on what item and if discontinued.

    Dealer margin varies extremely.
    Maybe between 25-75%

    If say 20-25% offered you might get a little more by negotiating.
  7. Bairnstorm

    Bairnstorm pfm Member

  8. Rick_F

    Rick_F pfm Member

    Depends on the dealer. Most seem to reduce by around 30%, but I've experienced the odd dealer who seemed to think close to the MRP was ok. Needless to say I won't buy from that kind.
  9. duckworp

    duckworp pfm Member

    10% usually. These days ex-demo often means a customer has returned it within the rules for online returns. So it is effectively new. It’s not the ex-demo of old days which were genuine well-used demonstration pieces.
  10. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Does it matter if its five days open or 50? Its not like kit wears out unless its a cart. Once its unwrapped and plugged in its used. Marked is a different issue.
  11. Beobloke

    Beobloke pfm Member

    This is heartening news - my last ex-dem bargains had 40% off...
  12. Whatsisnaim

    Whatsisnaim pfm Member

    My usual dealer has a standard 20% off ex-demo gear with full manufacturer’s warranty, in as-new condition. For anything in less than perfect condition I would expect a better deal.
    You should check the age of any demo gear, as popular items may well be a few years old and possibly well travelled if the dealer offers home demos. Not that this necessarily matters if the gear is in good condition and guaranteed.
  13. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Surprised this is still called ex-demo. Bit of a misnomer in my book.

    That equates to not paying the VAT (even if it's applicable to the used price). VAT is the immediate depreciation when buying at r.r.p. If paying VAT, the bigger the discount, the less tax.
  14. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I wouldn't get out of bed for 10% off. 20% minimum for me, if mint, boxed, full manuf warranty etc.
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  15. BertieWorcester

    BertieWorcester What-ho!!

    Yes, agreed. IMHO you're in the right zone there.
  16. manicatel

    manicatel pfm Member

    If something is mint, boxed, etc etc why would a dealer need to offer much over 20% off?
    Maybe a newer version coming out, maybe it’s been a slow seller?
    Certain stuff like AV Amps from Denon, Yamaha etc seem to drop in price quite a lot during their lifespan, other stuff like Linn, Naim & other premium brands rarely seem to need to be heavily discounted.
  17. mikemusic

    mikemusic pfm Member

    Off list. The dealer is still making a bit
  18. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Don't forget demo kit for dealers is often discounted as part of a bulk order incentive
  19. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    If you get 20% off the retail price you are saving slightly more than the VAT paid on the item.
  20. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer 432 Point5

    20-40% depending on circumstances of demo/use.

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