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Are you really saying that England lost deliberately and with premeditation?

Being crap now and again is one thing but being corrupt has an entirely different set of connotations.
 
On a more positive note, I hope everybody caught the entertaining documentary on Flowers reign called the Edge which was shown last Sunday.
 
Are you really saying that England lost deliberately and with premeditation?

Being crap now and again is one thing but being corrupt has an entirely different set of connotations.

I'd like to believe it was sheer incompetence but that over at the death by Willy and some of the others, Jeeze. No balls, wides, free hits - it would make me want to take a close look at any 'activity' across the markets.
 
The Edge was a tremendous film. Great insight into the minds and off pitch activity of top level sportsmen.
 
I'd like to believe it was sheer incompetence but that over at the death by Willy and some of the others, Jeeze. No balls, wides, free hits - it would make me want to take a close look at any 'activity' across the markets.

I think Willey was carrying an injury. England had to force the pace when batting due to a flat track and losing wickets regularly. They were 50 short on that wicket. Plus Ireland batted superbly.

I think Billings has done enough to get into the 1st string 50 over team, when they can put that out. The England team playing last night was 4/5 players short of their best team, especially in the bowling dept. The obvious omission of mark Wood in that attack, on that wicket, didn't help.

There you go, some reasoned suggestions...
 
Bah Humbug ..shorter forms of the game...I don't know why they don't just dispense with the ball having to bounce and call it baseball.

Boycott would be turning in his grave if he was dead....mind you Holding making the old Tyke's stumps cartwheel to the boundary and Botham's anecdote about deliberately running him out are two of my favourite old stories from cricket.
 
Yet more proof, if any was needed, that Buttler is not a 5 day wicketkeeper.
A missed catch and a missed stumping, neither difficult, would have been taken by a proper keeper rather than a pinch hitter who can catch.
 
Yet more proof, if any was needed, that Buttler is not a 5 day wicketkeeper.
A missed catch and a missed stumping, neither difficult, would have been taken by a proper keeper rather than a pinch hitter who can catch.

And yet he was lauded in the last three tests for his keeping in difficult conditions. 'We' are a fickle sporting bunch.
 
And yet he was lauded in the last three tests for his keeping in difficult conditions. 'We' are a fickle sporting bunch.
I made my views clear before the start of the WI series. Buttler is a very average keeper in the 5 day red ball game.
 
Easy to say that chances are easy when sitting in front of the telly;)
A proper test keeper would have done much better. In a former life, I was a wicketkeeper because I had good eye ball coordination. I was never a good wicketkeeper. It takes more than that.
 
Good eye to ball coordination essential. Reactions as quick as Lewis Hamilton (name your favorite driver) or Andy Murray (name your player) needed to be top of the tree.
 
A proper test keeper would have done much better. In a former life, I was a wicketkeeper because I had good eye ball coordination. I was never a good wicketkeeper. It takes more than that.
Wicket keeping is not easy, it is also no longer enough just to be an excellent keeper. You have to be able to bat, it is the latter skill which causes players to lose their place. Butler is a good keeper & potentially an excellent batsman which is why he currently has the gloves.

If he gets dropped it will be for a lack of runs. We don’t pick pure specialist fielders anymore.
 


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