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What are the world's best speakers to bring the philharmonic into your living room?

Discussion in 'audio' started by louballoo, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    wonder where he is now , the Canadians make fantastic speakers like verity audio Lohengrin
     
  2. robbyd

    robbyd pfm Member

    Surely stacked 57s with appropriate subs
     
  3. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Probably Martin Logan CLX ‘s though my Maggies do a good job.
     
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  4. marshanp

    marshanp ellipsis addict

    I think a piano is harder to reproduce than a big orchestra in full flight, and have yet to hear a loudspeaker "do" piano really convincingly. It doesn't help that (to my ears, at least) a lot of classical solo piano recordings are not very well made, with microphones far too close to the piano's insides. I don't want to hear what the pianist hears*

    I share the OP's aim of reproducing the experience of large-scale orchestral music in a good concert hall. What I have found necessary, far above any other consideration, is to make the room disappear. Only omnidirectional speakers have achieved this in any of the (fairly modestly sized) listening rooms I've ever had.



    *I've got a pianola for that :)
     
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  5. Durmbo

    Durmbo not French

    It's likely been suggested, but wouldn't bloody great horns be an answer?
     
  6. Gervais Cote

    Gervais Cote Predator

    Some large Wilson Audio speakers with proper amps really bring the whole classical orchestra in your living room IMO.
     
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  7. Birdseed007

    Birdseed007 Active Member

    I'd say some big ATC's, the choice of model depending on room size. Theirs are the speakers installed in Sydney Opera House and the Royal Festival Hall. They are staggeringly neutral, have massive bandwidth and the ability to reproduce huge dynamic swings. Crucially they are tremendously open and for my money offer the most lifelike sound reproduction of any speakers I have ever heard. I have a friend who is a concert pianist and so knows exactly what a Steinway concert grand sounds like having played hundreds of them over the years. On a recent visit and after seeking recommendations from fellow naim forum members for superb piano recordings, we had a listening session on my ATC SCM40's. She was utterly blown away!

    Birdseed
     
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  8. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

    I’m inclined to agree. It’s maybe no coincidence that Billy Woodman, the boss of ATC, was a professional piano player for some years, and one of his motivations in developing the ATC midrange was the realistic reproduction of piano. He said in an interview, talking of when he started in the ‘80s:

    “Think about hi-fi at the time; you had Quad, the LS3/5a, Spendors, and so, and they were all good acoustic quality loudspeakers with no dynamic range, so they wouldn’t even replay a piano played at pianissimo. And yet the Americans had loudspeakers that were born out of the theatre, that ended up in studios, and then ended up in hi-fi, that had huge dynamic range and not particularly good acoustic quality. I thought there’s got to be somewhere in the middle that you can reach, and the obvious thing to do is if you make the voice coil large enough you can make a direct radiating device handle enough power to give you enough maximum sound pressure level.”

    https://zstereo.co.uk/2018/02/01/atc/

    http://studio-hifi.com/images/ATC Founder Billy Woodman.pdf
     
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  9. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer 432 Point5

  10. Robert Sinden

    Robert Sinden Trade: Gecko Home Cinema

    I have recently installed this system in our main listening room. I believe it’s the only audio system in the world capable of faithfully reproducing a full orchestra.

    I’ve only been demonstrating it for a month but of the 6 dealers who have visited, all have said it’s the best audio system they have ever heard. If anyone fancies a listen, please let me know.

    https://steinwaylyngdorf.com/steinway-sons-ls-concert/

    Steinway Lyngdorf LS Concert loudspeakers were designed to deliver the highest fidelity sound in any environment. Capable of faithfully reproducing the sound of the live performance in rooms for up to 500 listeners, they are a unique speaker system.

    A free-standing dipole speaker, they introduce sound to the room from the front and rear, just like a musical instrument. This produces a far more open, natural sound than traditional forward radiating speakers. Music simply sounds as if the artists are in front of you rather than being reproduced by loudspeakers.
     
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  11. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    To be honest I wouldn't want a grand piano in my living room, it would be bloody painful. I don't get this mentality of wanting an orchestra in your room, sounds a bit daft to me.
     
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  12. Robert Sinden

    Robert Sinden Trade: Gecko Home Cinema

    A heard the ATC system at British Grove Studios and it was obviously colored or distorted.

    Bear in mind British Grove is one of the finest recording studios in the world and I was listening to the 5.1 mix of Brothers in Arms on the system/room it was mixed on.

    I commented on how bright it was and the engineer said it was about 4db up 3k.

    He visited and heard the Steinway Lyngdorf system and was blown away. “that’s what it should sound like” was his comment.
     
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  13. Miss Ariel

    Miss Ariel pfm Member

    I heard Magneplaner 20's at a HI-FI show in Windsor a couple of years ago.And they where incredible just vanished on a wide variety of Classical and the Trilogy amps and source didn't cost fortunes either.
    Absolutely wiped the floor with the nearby Absolute Sounds room I might add.
    Amazing speakers.
     
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  14. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

    It couldn’t possibly be that you sell the Steinways and you don’t sell the ATCs could it?
     
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  15. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    This is the route I will now likely take.Terribly impressed with the LRS speakers. Nearly got the .7s after a good offer but fell just short sadly. Love what I have now though so may be some time before I look to this.
     
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  16. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Steinway, Lol, 120hz-22khz

    So that's the lowest note of half the orchestra not being reproduced...
     
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  17. Central Audio

    Central Audio Trade Central Audio

    Closest I've heard Meridian DSP 8000 in a large room.
     
  18. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

    Yep, 26 of the 88 keys on a Piano are lower than 120Hz, (though to be fair I think you have to use sub-woofers with them).
     
  19. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer 432 Point5

    Yes, IIRC the Steinway has a number of subs in the system.
     
  20. Colin L

    Colin L LOU Attitude Adjuster

    Mine do a pretty good job of reproducing anything you care to listen to:D
    Huge scale and impact with detail and delicacy.

    [​IMG]
     
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