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Wharfdale Elysian 2?

Discussion in 'audio' started by Hook, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    The 507s are just slightly bigger 505s. That's exactly what they look and sound like. Matter of taste as always, there is no right in Hi-Fi. Personally, I've always found Wharfdales disappointing. Loved the old Diamonds though.

    My daughter has just bought one of the few low millage Seat Toledos in the world, a rebadged skoda Rapid, and I don't understand why it wasn't more popular. It's a lot of car for not a lot of money. My wife and I have Seat Leon FRs and again, I don't know why you'd buy a Golf? I've had a Golf, good car, but the Leons are just as good and cost a lot less. Basically, you pay a lot for a slightly better cabin in the Golf.
     
  2. cjyosemite

    cjyosemite pfm Member

    I agree they do look amazing but I doubt that my wife would agree. My first pair of speakers were Wharfedale Linton but I have gone through a few different brands before settling on ProAc & Spendor - with no intentions of changing in the future.

    Regarding the point about Audiofile snobbery, many years ago I was told by the Quad rep that Wharfedale was the group's main seller in the far east & many of their higher end products were sold under that brand - so do not judge on the brand name!
     
  3. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    That’s the thing about speakers.They can sound different in different locations and with different equipment. If something doesn’t sound right I never assume it’s just the product. My previous speakers yielded extra goodies with my change of amp.
     
  4. Minio

    Minio pfm Member

    I compared them to KEF LS50, Proac Studio 118, Dali Zensor 3 and a few others. They're all moved on with no regret.

    I've still got the Wharfedales.
     
  5. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    True. But it is also true that poor equipment actually does exist.
     
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  6. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    It does.Like poor cars or poor PCs. But I think they are generally less poor than they used to be.
     
  7. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Again, I'm not so sure. I think a lot of modern speakers are very boring. No energy about them at all.
     
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  8. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    Aesthetic's comes a long way down the list for me but these look hideous! Especially the stands.
     
  9. Minio

    Minio pfm Member

    Nail on head Arkless.
    Everyone has their own ideas about what looks good.
    The same goes for the different taste in how speakers should sound.
    There are so many variables like room, system, music, level preferences etc.

    It gets a bit shallow when people just rubbish a particular speaker because of their own subjectivism.
     
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  10. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Why else would one rubbish a speaker? Or anything else for that matter?

    Someone could buy a little plastic suitcase turntable and sing it's praises. Should we refrain from saying 'actually, it isn't a very good record player' because to say so is no more than our subjective opinion? If we can't express our subjective opinions on the kit we've owned, what is the point of being here at all?

    I once owned a pair of (X) speakers. Maybe I liked them, maybe I didn't. I'd be happy to tel you but I might offend someone so I best not.
     
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  11. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    What do you mean by energy?
     
  12. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    A lot of modern speakers are so clean, refined and controlled they are incapable of cutting free of the boxes and rocking out.
     
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  13. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Boxes are boxes.
     
  14. Minio

    Minio pfm Member

    Conversely I find a lot of modern speakers too opaque for my taste.
    If a speaker is too clean and controlled it is crying out for a more ballsy amp. Then it will shine.
     
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  15. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Just try some LRSs.That’ll free you from the dreaded box.
     
  16. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Deep.
     
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  17. eevo1969

    eevo1969 pfm Member

    Terrible comparison compounded by the posts that followed. Skoda required VW to get them where they are today didn’t they? Did you own a Skoda in the 80’s? Nice was it?

    No, I don’t think so. A rough patch? That’s very generous of you considering the timescales involved and the quantity or rather the lack of quantity of excellent products, that’s how they should be judged isn’t it?

    Im afraid we all practice brand snobbery from your website choices to petrol, bread, coffee and literally countless other things, are you suggesting you don’t succumb to branding?

    My wife and daughter in law both drive Skoda Octavia, I purchased the daughter in laws car for her. Not too sure what all this Skoda nonsense is....

    Brands fight hard for their reputations and consistency of products, a house sound, build, features etc. I prefer to buy products from companies that produce excellent products consistently if at all possible.

    Some brands earn their reputations, Wharfdale have worked extremely hard at being mediocre and pulled it off very successfully.

    Wharfdales Diamond 220 model just got recommended on ASR as well;)
     
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  18. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    By the way, I'm not saying these Wharfdale speakers are rubbish, not at all. They could be fantastic for all I know. All I'm saying is that I'm not going to start wetting myself over them because the internet says I should.
     
  19. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    They look like some sort of internal fitments in a tasteless oligarchs yacht..
    Just need some gold braids with gold anchors hanging off them! A whiff of Ssangyong's stylist being involved:eek:
     
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  20. Olsen

    Olsen pfm Member

    Looks a bit "Bling" to me
    Don't they have any frontgrilles ?

    TBH I don't fancy the mass produced Chinese kit.
    Buy a brand" seem to be the trend.

    (Written on a Chinese made smartphone)
     

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