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Used Van/Estate For The Boy

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Big Tabs, Feb 1, 2023.

  1. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs looking backwards, going forwards

    Youngest Boy (32!) has been running a diesel VW Caddy for a few years, which he picked up for about £1500. The Caddy has engine issues (fuel getting into the engine) which a garage has indicated may be piston rings failing (?). Boy thinks it is the injectors - I have no idea as mechanical stuff ain’t my thing.
    Boy is going to have a go at fixing it..

    So I think he will need a replacement soon.

    I want to point him towards a Berlingo or a Skoda Roomster. The Roomster can have all the seats removed in the rear I think.

    Boy has dogs and likes to camp in the middle of nowhere, potentially in the van. Typically, he has little money so Bank of Parents will pick up some of the bill. He reckons 3k will be enough, we think 5k minimum…

    Any positive suggestions as to the vehicle choice? If anyone lives on the Island, any pointers to dealers would be appreciated.
    I think we will end up looking around Nottinghamshire for him. There seems to be little choice and a premium on the Island.
     
  2. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    There was a some local to me, Glasgow, selling two Fiorino vans on AV forums recently, they looked decent £3,9k and £3,6k from memory, I drive the Citreon Nemo variant which is a great van.

    I'll have a look for the advert but they might be sold now, think the person was in Falkirk or Fife.

    Tony

    The advert has been archived but might be worth a PM they were archived 17th January probably be easy to see if they're being advertised elsewhere too as the reg numbers are visible.

    https://www.avforums.com/threads/fiat-fiorino-1-3-diesel-fsh-vans-for-sale-x2.2441368/
     
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  3. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    These days, fuel in the oil is often due to DPF (diesel particulate filter, in the exhaust) regeneration issues, sometimes stemming from the DPF not getting up to temperature and then staying there long enough to compete a regen.

    Stay away from Fords that use the engine where the timing belt goes through the engine oil, by design. They’re a ticking time bomb, will seize without warning.
     
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  4. Rcook

    Rcook pfm Member

    He would struggle to fit in a Skoda Roomster or Berlingo if he wants to sleep in them. I would suggest a Volvo V70 or the go (almost) anywhere ability of the XC70.
     
  5. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    OP's budget might have a bearing on whether a Volvo is on, though as a Volvo owner I wouldn't disagree. Pretty bulletproof and carry high mileages well, but if you're looking at an older one, make sure all the belts have been changed as per the service schedule. There's a stupid design flaw in some of the earlier 5-cyl diesels where the alternator belt can let go and wrap itself round the cambelt. Cue expensive bang. Later engines have guards, and some earlier ones have been modded, but one to be aware of. But I'd be reasonably confident in any c100k mile Volvo, with a bit of history.
     
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  6. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I've just read up on these, that sounds like a really stupid idea. Added to which in order to do it it's a job involving removing 3 engine covers, which sounds like engine out. Every 10 years, 150k miles, nobody is going to pay for engine out on a low value 10 year old car, they'll just ignore it until it goes pop.

    To the OP - car prices are still very high at present. I'd choose something like a Galaxy over either of the Skodas you mention.
     
  7. JensenHealey

    JensenHealey pfm Member

    One those looong stretched Ford van derived things would be a good bet.
     
  8. Rcook

    Rcook pfm Member

    V70s start at about a grand, though obviously spend more and you will get a better/newer one. Good point about the aux belt, otherwise they are pretty bulletproof. Petrol or diesel will do huge mileages if looked after (I had a D5 V70 with over 307,000 miles on it, ran perfectly, I am currently selling a D5 XC70 with a no-advisory MOT and just shy of 218,000 miles).
     
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  9. Rodrat

    Rodrat pfm Member

    Fiat Doblo, good enough for JK as his family run about. Take out the rear seats. We had one for a couple of years.
     
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  10. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I think they call that a Tourneo, looks like a tarted up Transit with windows. Good choice as you say for stealth camping and schlepping about carrying lots of outdoor sports gear.
     
  11. Seat Alhambra, massive with seats removed.

    Cheers BB
     
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  12. Nero

    Nero Don’t call me Bud

    Which island? Wight/Sheppey/Canvey/Mersea/Barry/other?
     
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  13. jagdesign

    jagdesign pfm Member

    Yeti, though I don’t know what 5k would get you. I’ve slept in ours and I’m 6’3”

    Also picked up a king bed frame a few weeks back, after taking the seats out. Wish they’d pull their finger out and make an electric equivalent!
     
  14. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs looking backwards, going forwards

    Thanks for the suggestions so far, the Volvo is the least likely!

    Something pig ugly like the Fiat or Seat might suit.

    Isle O Wight
     
  15. divedeepdog

    divedeepdog pfm Member

    Re: the vw, check the stretch bolts aren’t snapped, and the injector clamps not broken. We’ve had a lot of pain with Ms DDD’s caddy.

    Injector went a year ago, bodged by a ‘friend’ who left a snapped bolt and the overflow pipes leaking, then the EGR went…
     
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  16. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    You'll do well to test for broken stretch bolts I'd think, certainly not without removing the cam cover, and no seller's going to let you do that. Likewise seized injectors and broken clamps are mechanic inspection jobs too.
    edit - turns out that stretch bolts are used on injector clamps on VW. Still, it's pro inspection territory because of I were selling a car and the guy buying it started getting his spanners out I'd be asking him what on earth he thought he was doing.
     
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  17. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Me too, I ate one sour too.

    If he doesn't need back seats and is looking to use it for discreet camping with a couple of canines, I would have thought he's going to need a proper van. Trying to blackout an estate or SUV to sleep in it is tricky - I know, I’ve tried!

    I’d look for the best Doblo or Berlingo I could find for £3k. You’ll probably get a better vehicle than a yeti or Caddy for £5k.
     
  18. RJohan

    RJohan pfm Member

    Remember!

    The first rule of father buying car for offspring: It must be cheap and old as the youngster will crash it. Father himself, who (of course) is a very good driver and will never crash, continues in his new and very safe car.
     
  19. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs looking backwards, going forwards

    First rule - Stereotypes rarely apply to me.
    I don’t regard 3-5k as cheap. The Boy is 32, so not a child.
    We have never had a new car, the used car we purchased is 11 years old, and will be kept running as long as we can. Hoping the car will last another 10 years.
     
  20. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs looking backwards, going forwards


    He will only use the car to sleep in very rarely. He is more likely to walk 15 - 20 miles and camp with no tent.

    I spoke to The Boy yesterday and planted the idea of Doblo/Berlingo.

    Also I think the pig ugly Skoda Roomster is worth a look.
     

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