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sideshowbob said:
It's more likely he's a f*ckwit.
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I think there's significant (borderline) mental illness out there, which is preyed upon by purveyors of for-profit conspiracies. Some of the victims are quite intelligent, but unfortunately become victims of their own intelligence when they use it to construct elaborate alternative realities in which to live.

My real hatred is saved for those who are knowingly spreading lies for profit. Like Murdoch, for example.
 
P.s. I see Russia has re-introduced the Moskvich brand to be produced at the recently nationalised Renault factory.
 
mjw said:
P.s. I see Russia has re-introduced the Moskvich brand to be produced at the recently nationalised Renault factory.
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We could never afford Moskvitch in the 1970s, only a used Zaporozhets.

Very few new cars were being produced then, with 10 year waiting lists. So the price of used cars was higher than new. Our car's brakes locked up solid on a first drive. I am not sure if ours had an electric starter, but the hand crank was in near constant use.

Still, with an actual drivable private car, we were the lucky 5%!

One of many joys of Soviet socialism. @gints knows what I am talking about.
 
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Vlad is a great admirer of Peter the Great and is seeking to reclaim what he sees as Russia's proper sphere of influence and respect in the world, as did Peter. However, it occurs to me that, more and more, he is looking like Nicholas II, who tried to shore up local support by the traditional method of fighting a successful foreign war, the operative word being “successful”. He picked on Japan, and had his butt handed to him (he lost his entire battlefleet at Tsushima), and was forced to allow a parliament to be formed. It was the beginning of the end for autocracy. It would be nice if this bit of history repeated itself.
 
tones said:
Vlad is a great admirer of Peter the Great and is seeking to reclaim what he sees as Russia's proper sphere of influence and respect in the world, as did Peter. However, it occurs to me that, more and more, he is looking like Nicholas II, who tried to shore up local support by the traditional method of fighting a successful foreign war, the operative word being “successful”. He picked on Japan, and had his butt handed to him (he lost his entire battlefleet at Tsushima), and was forced to allow a parliament to be formed. It was the beginning of the end for autocracy. It would be nice if this bit of history repeated itself.
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It was the beginning of the end for the old autocracy....
 
tones said:
Vlad is a great admirer of Peter the Great and is seeking to reclaim what he sees as Russia's proper sphere of influence and respect in the world, as did Peter. However, it occurs to me that, more and more, he is looking like Nicholas II, who tried to shore up local support by the traditional method of fighting a successful foreign war, the operative word being “successful”. He picked on Japan, and had his butt handed to him (he lost his entire battlefleet at Tsushima), and was forced to allow a parliament to be formed. It was the beginning of the end for autocracy. It would be nice if this bit of history repeated itself.
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On the way to the above disaster at Tsushima the Russian Baltic Fleet fired on British fishing boats in the Dogger Bank incident, thinking they were Japanese gunboats. There is a memorial to the dead fishermen in Hull.

Russian military competence pretty suspect even more than a hundred years ago.
 
Belarus Foreign Secretary, Vladimir Makei who was seen as pro- Western and a possible successor to Lukashenko has passed away suddenly it was announced. The cause of death hasn’t been announced but a vertical sudden deceleration injury in the vicinity of a window hasn’t been ruled out.
 
TheDecameron said:
Belarus Foreign Secretary, Vladimir Makei who was seen as pro- Western and a possible successor to Lukashenko has passed away suddenly it was announced. The cause of death hasn’t been announced but a vertical sudden deceleration injury in the vicinity of a window hasn’t been ruled out.
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Makei was not exactly pro-Western (the EU had him on its travel ban list because of his role in repressing the protests in 2020) but it seems he was Belarus' main communication channel to the West. He was due to meet Lavrov tomorrow.
I hope his wife and children are OK - there have been too many murder-suicide scenarios recently among oligarchs and honchos.
 
PsB said:
Makei was not exactly pro-Western (the EU had him on its travel ban list because of his role in repressing the protests in 2020) but it seems he was Belarus' main communication channel to the West. He was due to meet Lavrov tomorrow.
I hope his wife and children are OK - there have been too many murder-suicide scenarios recently among oligarchs and honchos.
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This is being interpreted as at least a sign or more of a future peak for Lukashenko. Join the war with your military or be decelerated.
 
Eventually the Belarus collective potato farm boss will outlive his usefulness to Putin or to a Pretender to his throne. At the moment he’s one of about four outlaw fiefdoms voting with Russia at the UN. He thinks he can carry out air piracy and the abduction and unlawful detention of opposition politicians at will but he’s no Putin and he’ll be defenestrated at the convenience of his boss in Moscow. Best thing would be a popular uprising with teeth this time but it’s rumoured Putin will step on his corpse first-

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Barrymagrec said:
On the way to the above disaster at Tsushima the Russian Baltic Fleet fired on British fishing boats in the Dogger Bank incident, thinking they were Japanese gunboats. There is a memorial to the dead fishermen in Hull.

Russian military competence pretty suspect even more than a hundred years ago.
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For anyone interested in the fate of the 2nd Pacific Squadron, here is an undeniably pretty entertaining history video. It's not even attempting to be funny as such, but when the story of a naval voyage include snakes, crocodiles and chameleons, there is no way around that this would be prime material for a movie in the form of a farce.

 
Chefren said:
For anyone interested in the fate of the 2nd Pacific Squadron, here is an undeniably pretty entertaining history video. It's not even attempting to be funny as such, but when the story of a naval voyage include snakes, crocodiles and chameleons, there is no way around that this would be prime material for a movie in the form of a farce.

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That's hilarious, thank you! One wonders what would have happened in the Second World War if they hadn't had Zhukov and Konev. (Zhukov probably only survived the 1930s' purges by being located in the Soviet Far East and kicking Japanese butts so hard that they never again tried anything)
 
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