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Ukraine V

Discussion in 'off topic' started by DimitryZ, Jun 29, 2022.

  1. Sonority

    Sonority pfm Member

    Should he use one of those, Russia, (and most of the planet) will cease to exist within minutes.
     
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  2. mykel

    mykel Perpetual Hack.

  3. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

  4. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    A question, I will note, that does not occur if one considers the content obviously satire. Can't just make that assumption, I fear.
     
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  5. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    I saw a different translation of the same material yesterday, listed as being from a Wagner Group Telegram channel, not specifically Rusich.

    It's being shared by credible people but who knows. I'm sure Ukraine are churning out just as much propaganda as Russia.
     
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  6. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

  7. DimitryZ

    DimitryZ pfm Member

    Russia can simply detonate their missiles in their silos and cause a worldwide nuclear winter.
     
  8. DimitryZ

    DimitryZ pfm Member

  9. Hook

    Hook Blackbeard's former bo'sun.

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  10. mykel

    mykel Perpetual Hack.

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  11. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Who’s next for denazification? The formula for success is blindingly simple- partially invade, hold sham referendum to declare territory part of Russia, threaten nuclear attack if the true owners try to get it back, rinse and repeat. Hello USSR 2.0

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  12. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    The blessing of the human sacrifices, Russia:

    [​IMG]

    Meanwhile the smart ones have formed a 20 hour queue at the border with Georgia. Different vehicles this time.

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    That's .. the Big Board. We'll see Everything!

    ...reminds me to watch Dr. Strangelove tonight; then I'll feel much better.
     
  14. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    It looks like matters may come to a head quite soon. Lavrov reiterated in New York that Russia would defend their new territorial acquisitions as though they were the motherland, with the full panoply of weapons that Putin has described including nukes. I’m guessing they’ll start first with hypersonic missiles fired at Kyiv or other demonstration targets since they have been warned repeatedly in private by Washington that nukes would mean a severe response by the US.
     
  15. palindrome

    palindrome Thru a hedge, backwards and forwards.

    ^^^^^ Thinking aloud here:

    If you are correct in this scenario, and Putin pursues the use of high-yield thermobaric (non-nuclear) missiles, the key issue will be his choice of target. If that is Kyiv, then Putin has deliberately targeted a densely populated area, murdering tens, if not hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Ukraine, the US, and NATO may see this as egregious as the use of nukes, and may decide to initiate a swift retaliatory response into Russia itself*, to take out its command and control centres, static missile silos etc', possibly even Russia's warships and submarines that possess the same launch capabilities. In other words - WW3.

    On the other hand, if the response from 'The West' is to chuck out a few ambassadors from their respective embassies and have diplomats deliver words of condemnation, Putin will simply continue to pursue his policy of mass extermination of the Ukrainian population.

    As has been acknowledged before - the only thing Putin respects is strength.

    I sure wouldn't like to be in the shoes of Biden right now.

    John

    *edit: utilising conventional weaponry.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2022 at 9:03 PM
  16. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    What would Trump do ? o_O
     
  17. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    Putin has raised the stakes considerably.

    It puts the pressure back on Zelinsky - does he stick and be content with the recent gains or continue with the advance in the knowledge that his decision could lead to a Russian strike on a major urban centre.
     
  18. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    And do the opposite.
     
  19. palindrome

    palindrome Thru a hedge, backwards and forwards.

    I could be wrong (obviously) but I don't see Zelenskyy backing down; not even if Biden were to put pressure on him to do so. This is an existential threat for him and Ukranian society. If Putin succeeds in destroying large urban areas in his fervour to wipe out Ukrainian identity, he will continue with his Eurasia (con)quest into other soverign states, ''The West' having demonstrated an unwillingness to take him on.

    John
     
  20. MUTTY1

    MUTTY1 Waste of bandwidth

    Ukraine will push on regardless. You simply can’t run a world where a nuclear power says I will take what I wish or I’ll destroy everything including myself and all my mates families. He is bluffing
     

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