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Ukraine IV

Discussion in 'off topic' started by -alan-, Apr 13, 2022.

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  1. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    If you care to actually read my post you will see it was a question, not an assertion of any sort. Equally clear is the answer to your ‘who’ question, it’s there at the top of the post. Do you have an actual point to make?
  2. DimitryZ

    DimitryZ pfm Member

    Can we not devolve this thread into a meandering discussion of "western hypocrisy?"

    We have heard it multiple times now and understand your pov.
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  3. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    It was your friend Spraggons Den who meandered into the realm of hypocrisy, not me. I merely responded to a question about the morality of invasions raised by someone else.
  4. Amber Audio

    Amber Audio This is the Day

    All you’re doing is fill this thread with noise cos you like to hear your own keyboard rattle.
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  5. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Can you not formulate an argument without resort to petty insult?
  6. Amber Audio

    Amber Audio This is the Day

    That’s all you’re ever after all over this forum “an argument”. Presume you meant without not with, maybe you’re typing too fast.

    Anyway back OT - it looks like Germany is kicking in measures to guard against Russian Gas supplies being cut off. Also they are finally delivering the 155mm with trained UA guys.
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  7. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    I’ve yet to make an argument, I just asked a question. One question and 3 replies that do not address the post, but make sarcastic remarks about the poster. Seems to be a theme of this thread.
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  8. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    Okay I shall accept the challenge (although i can't really remember the question) so I will go with my swinger. Is the answer one or a combination of the following:

    a. NATO expansionism

    b. US imperialism

    c. Monetarism

    d. Dukla Prague away kit
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  9. Amber Audio

    Amber Audio This is the Day

    Wrong time of year for D - it’s an Xmas gift
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  10. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    The fact that you post ad him without understanding the question is telling.
  11. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    I hope this is not ad hom, but I reckon you are one of the most argumentative posters here on PFM. Whenever there is an endless back and forward discussion on a thread, there’s a very high chance that you are at the centre of it!
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  12. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Not ad hom, at least not part of the same litany of personal gripes that comes from your friend SD, but it is yet another post that attacks the poster and not the post. You are now the 4th poster to respond to a question with a personal attack. If a the response to asking a question is a personalised response, then the problem is not with me, but with those who lack the intellect to answer a question with a reasoned argument and resort instead to sarcasm and personal snipes.
  13. Amber Audio

    Amber Audio This is the Day

    Nope, the problem really is you.
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  14. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    By yet again not answering the question in the post, but attacking the poster, you prove that it really isn’t.
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  15. Plink

    Plink pfm Member

    because they are stupid and intellectually dishonest questions. Nobody said the falklands invasion was more pernicious than Iraq or Afghanistan…yet you still ask the question as if someone here said so.

    the what about stuff at this point is beyond tedious. a separate thread would be good and would broaden the topic for you.

    I think you somehow do not understand that the what aboutism, no matter your angle of argument, is seen by many as amenable to Putin as this is Putin’s own tactic for excusing his abhorrent actions.
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  16. Gingerbeard

    Gingerbeard Ayup Me Duck

  17. ErikL

    ErikL pfm Member

    EU leaders agree to make Ukraine and Moldova candidates for EU membership after giving bids a speedy review.

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  18. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member

    That is a rather absolutist view of morality. Reality may not fit it very well.
  19. Jim Audiomisc

    Jim Audiomisc pfm Member

    Perhaps "Is morality an absolute" needs a different thread to one that is specifically about Ukraine. Otherwise this does just what some trolls/shills may wish - to dilute and divert attention from the central issue *of this thread*.
  20. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member

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