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NATO has introduced a part blockade of a Russian territory:
https://www.trtworld.com/europe/lithuania-to-bar-rail-exports-imports-from-russia-s-kaliningrad-58084

Interesting move. Does NATO provoke Russia so they get a formal excuse to go fully into the war?

Not actually a NATO sanction though is it, it is an EU sanction that is being enforced, do your due diligence, it’s almost like you have a bee in your bonnet about NATO.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022...-eu-sanctions-on-goods-to-russias-kaliningrad
Lithuania enforces EU sanctions on goods to Russia’s Kaliningrad

Lithuanian authorities have banned the transit through their territory of goods to the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad that are subject to European Union sanctions, according to the national rail service.
 
Wonder why Putin did not invade when Trump was in power ? Trump would not have helped Ukraine.
USA is now an unreliable ally to democratic countries, and I'm not sure the UK will be in future. edit Putin may have overplayed his hand but even to have got this far is amazing.
How ironic that 75 years after the Nazis Germany (or the EU) becomes the leader of the free world...
 
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Wonder why Putin did not invade when Trump was in power ? Trump would not have helped Ukraine.
USA is now an unreliable ally to democratic countries, and I'm not sure the UK will be in future.
How ironic that 75 years after the Nazis Germany (or the EU) becomes the leader of the free world...
I don't see any irony. If EU can do the job, more power to it.

And if EU is the leader, how about some more weapons to Ukraine?
 
Wonder why Putin did not invade when Trump was in power ? Trump would not have helped Ukraine.
USA is now an unreliable ally to democratic countries, and I'm not sure the UK will be in future. edit Putin may have overplayed his hand but even to have got this far is amazing.
How ironic that 75 years after the Nazis Germany (or the EU) becomes the leader of the free world...

Erm... IIUC The UK and others have been supplying rather more practical support for Ukraine's fight than Germany. And Germany does have a problem with currently being hooken on Russian fossil fuels.
 
Wonder why Putin did not invade when Trump was in power ? Trump would not have helped Ukraine.
USA is now an unreliable ally to democratic countries, and I'm not sure the UK will be in future. edit Putin may have overplayed his hand but even to have got this far is amazing.
How ironic that 75 years after the Nazis Germany (or the EU) becomes the leader of the free world...

He didn't invade when his mate was around because he is not a strategic thinker. What do you mean by amazing?
 
If the Republicans win in November support for Ukraine will be shaky...

If the Republicans do win in November and support for Ukraine falters [from the USA], this will be a huge wake-up alarm for Europe.

Clearly Mr Trump was keen on devolving from commitments to European defence, and made the point [which is justified] that Europe itself needs to make a greater provision for its own defence.

Just now Russians are complaining that most of the World hates Russia. If the USA becomes isolationist, it is quite possible that many in the World will also start hating the USA as well. We live in extra-ordinarily strange times ...

All actions and words have consequences.

Best wishes from George
 
⚡️ European Ukraine vs anti-Russian Ukraine

The visits of the leaders of continental Europe and the visit of the British Prime Minister the next day demonstrate the competition of two geopolitical projects: European and anti-Russian.

Europe needs to end the war urgently. They are ready to give Ukraine any virtual gifts so that the war stops and they can start a "dialogue with Moscow."

We have already written that Western think tanks believe that Britain needs to prolong the war for at least 2 years so that the EU economy can finally be rebuilt to "anti-Russian" energy.

Such a break in cooperation between the Russian Federation and the EU will ensure disintegration, which will set both these projects back geopolitically for decades. This is what the Anglo-Saxons are interested in: before the fight with China, weaken other players, introduce their maximum dependence in order to use their resources.

Judging by Bankova's statements, Johnson persuaded Ze again, no negotiations until the complete military liberation of the entire territory ‼️
 
⚡️ European Ukraine vs anti-Russian Ukraine

The visits of the leaders of continental Europe and the visit of the British Prime Minister the next day demonstrate the competition of two geopolitical projects: European and anti-Russian.

Europe needs to end the war urgently. They are ready to give Ukraine any virtual gifts so that the war stops and they can start a "dialogue with Moscow."

We have already written that Western think tanks believe that Britain needs to prolong the war for at least 2 years so that the EU economy can finally be rebuilt to "anti-Russian" energy.

Such a break in cooperation between the Russian Federation and the EU will ensure disintegration, which will set both these projects back geopolitically for decades. This is what the Anglo-Saxons are interested in: before the fight with China, weaken other players, introduce their maximum dependence in order to use their resources.

Judging by Bankova's statements, Johnson persuaded Ze again, no negotiations until the complete military liberation of the entire territory ‼️
Lots of words, same meaning.

If Ukraine can kick your ass (with our help), and wants to do it, we are happy to let it.

Even the peaceable Europeans are slowly beginning to understand that there will be no peace until Russia looses its' ability to invade other countries.

You can do pretty much anything you want within your own borders. Impoverish your own orc population even further, steal even more money, continue the search for the special "Russian Way" (but build even more orphanages, because Russians get rid of their children there), maybe attack your own restive region and continue to have your parades. Work on building indoor toilets for your population (2/3 of your rural population lacks this basic modern invention) - but your history tells us that you won't.

But once you try to take over and annex other countries, you are going to get your sorry ass kicked hard.

Russia should take its troops out of neighboring countries - Moldova, Georgia and Ukraine. You will, it's only a matter of time. The slap in the face that you received recently from Khazakstan will only get more numerous and worse.

You are not wanted in any of these places. Go home now, before you are forcibly ejected. At least save some national dignity for your future, however bleak it is.
 
As above. Putin has put the Russian cause back decades. There hasn’t been an empire yet that has risen again Phoenix-like. They are one off events: Ottoman, Roman, British. The Russian one is no different.
 
Lithuania's actions against Kaliningrad... British general's comments...

We may be heading for this https://www.newsweek.com/russia-preparing-colossal-war-nato-andrey-gurulyov-1716810

"Now they're contemplating getting directly involved," Solovyev said, referring to the West. With western aid to Ukraine a pet peeve for the show's guests over the last few weeks, Solovyev said that the Baltic states, Poland, and the United Kingdom comprised an "entirely new alliance" that will get involved in the war, "and the rest of NATO will follow."
 
Lithuania's actions against Kaliningrad... British general's comments...

We may be heading for this https://www.newsweek.com/russia-preparing-colossal-war-nato-andrey-gurulyov-1716810

"Now they're contemplating getting directly involved," Solovyev said, referring to the West. With western aid to Ukraine a pet peeve for the show's guests over the last few weeks, Solovyev said that the Baltic states, Poland, and the United Kingdom comprised an "entirely new alliance" that will get involved in the war, "and the rest of NATO will follow."
I would take anything Solovyov said with a big pinch of salt.

As a paid propagandist, he usually gets his orders from above. But in cases he didn't, he starts to adlib, leaning over his skies.

Generally though, Putin used his propaganda channels to get Russians fired up for a little victorious war. But once the war became a WW1 style trench warfare, propaganda channels became almost a liability, because they are only configured for escalation.

Just before the invasion, Solovyov said that once Russians "raise their eye brows" Ukrainians will immediately run and give up. Now, it's increasingly difficult for him to explain why this didn't happen and why Russian men are dying by the thousands in Ukraine.
 
Scholz is being to see things a bit more clearly:

"Putin fears the 'spark of democracy' spreading to Russia, according to German Chancellor Olaf Scholz who said the Russian president was trying to divide Europe and return to a world dominated by spheres of influence. “The Russian President must accept that there is a community of law-based democracies in his neighbourhood that is growing ever closer together. He clearly fears the spark of democracy spreading to his country,” Scholz told the Muenchner Merkur newspaper."
 
Clearly Mr Trump was keen on devolving from commitments to European defence, and made the point [which is justified] that Europe itself needs to make a greater provision for its own defence.

Erm that use of "Europe" skates over the fact that the level of defence spending in Europe varies from country to country. So risks being Trump-esque. It also overlooks the problem that all too often the money is spent on the wrong things in the wrong way.
 
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