Ukraine III

[anubisgrau]

Where are all these sweeping, dehumanising generalisations?

go through your posts, why should anyone here do it for you

 

[TheDecameron]

Russia considers US and NATO vehicles transporting weapons in Ukraine as legitimate military targets, - Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov

Were you getting quite excited?

 

[Bob McC]

I don't agree that I need to research a source before posting.


That doesn't change my opinion that there were interesting points in the article I linked to.

Interesting that you point out the Scripals incident - its been a while since I've seen anything written about that. Think they were both hospitalised but recovered iirc - where did they go to afterwards. I'd think the daughter would return to her family/ partner in Russia, even if the father would likely go into hiding.

I remember at the time thinking there was some UK/Western propaganda in the media portrayal of it and the aftermath.

It certainly didn't feel as clear cut as the poor guy who was poisoned with (I think) Polonium in a London hotel.

FFS this is ****ing nonsense.

 

[DimitryZ]

Who else is there?

There are many volunteers from many countries. But it's much better to have collective defense.

 

[TheDecameron]

Several unverified reports that the Russian flag ship Moskva in the Black Sea has been struck by missiles from a concealed Ukrainian battery and is on fire. If substantiated this will impact on any amphibious landing and marine bombardment of Odessa.

 

[Yank]

Was watching in our news about Sweden and Finland considering joining NATO. Actually, there was mentioned a very valid point in my view. What if Russia will go for Finland. No NATO, nobody can come help legally. If somebody is ready volunteer, Russia threatens go nuclear, and Finland stays alone. What if Russia decides take Gotland (strategic place). Same scenario, no NATO, no help. This is Ukraine scenario today.

First they need to establish a breakaway separatist zone of Russian-speakers along the Eastern border.

That's what they did in Georgia, Ukraine and Moldova anyway...

 

[gints]

Yes, I know about volunteers, there are some from my country as well. Putin did not raise his nuclear argument because of volunteers.

 

[Hook]

This must mean that the OSCE doesn’t like Russia. Otherwise, why would they accuse them of such horrible acts?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ted-humanitarian-law-ukraine-osce-2022-04-13/

 

[-alan-]

First they need to establish a breakaway separatist zone of Russian-speakers along the Eastern border.

That's what they did in Georgian, Ukraine and Moldova anyway...

^

 

[anubisgrau]

Several unverified reports that the Russian flag ship Moskva in the Black Sea has been struck by missiles from a concealed Ukrainian battery and on fire. If substantiated this will impact on any amphibious landing and marine bombardment of Odessa.

Do you pee in your pants or just can't see the fake news?

Meanwhile, ordinary Russians some here passionately hate:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1514317529904209929

 

[gints]

First they need to establish a breakaway separatist zone of Russian-speakers along the Eastern border.

That's what they did in Georgian, Ukraine and Moldova anyway...

O, that's a relief.
On other hand, Russia have those 'green people' who were never there. So, you never know.

 

[anubisgrau]

What's "green" people?

Chechens?

 

[TheDecameron]

This must mean that the OSCE doesn’t like Russia. Otherwise, why would they accuse them of such horrible acts?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ted-humanitarian-law-ukraine-osce-2022-04-13/

In fact they passionately hate Russia and have fallen for fake news. The corpses got up and walked off for a cup of tea.

 

[gints]

Actually, there was something about Russians and Gotland. They bought a land or something. Swedes considered that or there was something else and they returned their military presence more serious in island

 

[gints]

What's "green" people?

Chechens?

Like in Crimea and Donbass.