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UK Election 2015 (part II)

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Mick P said:
What you call an mitigated disaster is what I would call a problem, no more and no less.

Cut back somewhere else and put the money into care for the infirm elderly. It's hardly rocket science.
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I said unmitigated disaster.
 
notaclue said:
The general consensus was that Miliband would be the liability going into this election, but it's actually Cameron who really is underperforming badly.
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Doesn't 'underperforming' imply he should be doing better? :D
 
notaclue said:
The general consensus was that Miliband would be the liability going into this election, but it's actually Cameron who really is underperforming badly.
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The Daily Mail's smear tactics have clearly misfired badly. Firstly, people can see that Miliband is about as far from being a Marxist nutter as it's possible to be; secondly, the Mail's attempts to discredit him because of a 'colourful' private life just make him seem more interesting/human (see: Boris Johnson) and thirdly, everyone's so used to the Daily Mail being hysterical about everything that they discount most of what's printed there.
 
The closer it gets the clearer it is the tories truly have nothing to say, hence the constant attempt to scare people about a coalition between Labour and SNP, while ignoring their own disastrous coalition with the Libdems and likely dancing to the tune of Farage as their only way of continuing their destruction of UK society.
 
Brian said:
The closer it gets the clearer it is the tories truly have nothing to say, hence the constant attempt to scare people about a coalition between Labour and SNP, while ignoring their own disastrous coalition with the Libdems and likely dancing to the tune of Farage as their only way of continuing their destruction of UK society.
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I suspect the knives are being sharpened for Cameron. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Cameron-hits-Tory-jitters-grow-election.html
 
Brian said:
The closer it gets the clearer it is the tories truly have nothing to say...
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George Osborne had lots to say on "The World This Weekend".

It's a pity it was mostly regurgitating the following words in various combinations: "Financial", "Disaster", "Economic", "Chaos", "Hard-working families".

It must be a factor of getting old - I spent a lot of time shouting at the radio. :D
 
Seeker_UK said:
George Osborne had lots to say on "The World This Weekend".

It's a pity it was mostly regurgitating the following words in various combinations: "Financial", "Disaster", "Economic", "Chaos", "Hard-working families".

It must be a factor of getting old - I spent a lot of time shouting at the radio. :D
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I shout at mine all the time.

And it isn't even plugged in...
 
Mullardman said:
There's a reason why Mick is arguing for funding for the elderly....
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Mull

I am not arguing for funding for the elderly, all I am doing is expressing amusement at Gregs tendency to exaggerate that everything is an unmitigated disaster when it is not.

My own view on funding for the elderly is that the scrounging old buggers pay for their own care and that includes both you and I. There is no excuse for either of us to freeload off the younger generation.

I have stashed a pile away to fund the dotage of my wife and myself, I expect you and every other old codger to do the same.

Regards

Mick
 
Mick P said:
I have stashed a pile away to fund the dotage of my wife and myself, I expect you and every other old codger to do the same.
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I realise you, as many Tories, lack even a shred of empathetic ability, but surely you can grasp that not everyone grew up in a period of full employment and walked away with a lavish trade union-fought for public sector pension in the way you did? Once again you bend the needles on hypocrisy meters right across the land! Be honest for once; you are where you are today entirely due to the state as you have suckled at it's teat all your working life both in the heavily unionised public sector of the '70s and later on obscene contract rates in the entirely parasitic PFI industry.
 
Tony L said:
I realise you, as many Tories, lack even a shred of empathetic ability, but surely you can grasp that not everyone grew up in a period of full employment and walked away with a lavish trade union-fought for public sector pension in the way you did? Once again you bend the needles on hypocrisy meters right across the land! Be honest for once; you are where you are today entirely due to the state as you have suckled at it's teat all your working life both in the heavily unionised public sector of the '70s and later on obscene contract rates in the entirely parasitic PFI industry.
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Tony

There's no need to make it personal. I have always been honest that I screwed the Public service for the pension and when I maximised that, I opted to specialise in PFI and energy procurement which paid well.

Anyone else, yourself included, could have done the same.

It's called using your head.

Mick
 
Mick, when you seek to troll-up a thread and lob extremist right-wing ideological rocks from a house made entirely from glass it needs pointing out!

PS Not everyone here is of your age! Many of us left school to face the mass unemployment and urban deprevation of the 1980s, and I'm sure many much younger folk are facing similar today as your generation grabbed all the housing and priced everyone else out of the picture!
 
Mick P said:
Tony

There's no need to make it personal. I have always been honest that I screwed the Public service for the pension and when I maximised that, I opted to specialise in PFI and energy procurement which paid well.

Anyone else, yourself included, could have done the same.

It's called using your head.

Mick
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Go you. But we're not talking about you.
 
Mick P said:
Mull

I am not arguing for funding for the elderly, all I am doing is expressing amusement at Gregs tendency to exaggerate that everything is an unmitigated disaster when it is not.

My own view on funding for the elderly is that the scrounging old buggers pay for their own care and that includes both you and I. There is no excuse for either of us to freeload off the younger generation.

I have stashed a pile away to fund the dotage of my wife and myself, I expect you and every other old codger to do the same.

Regards

Mick
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For some of us yes. We are in the same boat and have saved for our retirement. However Mull and others like him worked hard and were then hit by illness and in Mulls case it was his ticker and that knocked his earnings off the race track. People like Mull should be supported if he ever has an hour of need.

What erks me are those who did have good jobs (I have met some) who blew every penny that they earned on living for 'now' and then expect the rest of us to pick up the tab.

Cheers,

DV
 
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