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Torys vote to keep SH*T in the water.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Dogberry, Oct 26, 2021.

  1. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Read that as 'A dead peasant once in a while seems to work.'
     
  2. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    Well, yeah, but it's kind of like burning your house down to solve a case of rising damp.
     
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  3. Guinnless

    Guinnless pfm Member

    It used to have more until the Scousers stole some. A whole valley-full!
     
  4. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Pending

    Scousers don't steal - they merely relieve people of the burden of looking after stuff.
     
  5. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    It's a good job you're lobbing these slurs at the population of a city rather than at, say, a particular racial or ethnic group.
     
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  6. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...sh-demand-for-halt-to-intensive-poultry-units
     
  7. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Welsh Water, Dwr Cymru, is Not for Profit.
     
  8. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    They do a good job in my experience. Maybe that’s the model which should be adopted elsewhere for essential services such as water.
     
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  9. dweezil

    dweezil pfm Member

    That's interesting, i wonder whether the waste is from too much being used per acre or breaking the rules on timing.

    There might be a lot more chickens per unit area there and less arable, much as parts of Holland with too many pigs.

    In that case they're missing out on sale of the nutrients. Our chicken litter directly replaces DAP on oilseed rape and is a base fertiliser for potatoes, we still have to buy in a lot of nutrients to top up.

    The chicken farm charges the arable side a significant sum for the litter.
     
  10. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    I think it's the sheer scale of these farms
     
  11. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

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  12. dweezil

    dweezil pfm Member

    We're relatively small but it would still be worth hauling the chicken litter 200 miles for sale as fertiliser.

    The units backs onto a stream so the EA knows exactly where to look if there's pollution of any sort and they do look.

    Half the reason we bought the farm was to get the cheap fertiliser!
     
  13. Enfield boy

    Enfield boy pfm Member

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  14. Colin L

    Colin L High-tech low-life

    Just a reminder, to prove yet again, how Scotland is better than England..

    Scottish water is publicly owned, invests 35% more per household on infrastructure than England, while charging consumers 14% less.
    That's what happens when you aren't paying dividends to investment companies. Of course the Tories would love to privatise it.
     
  15. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    :D

    And of course it tastes better .:D
     
  16. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Too soft though - gives you heart trouble
     
  17. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

    The government hasn't really performed a U-turn on this. They have applied PR sticking plaster ("best efforts","next five years" etc.) in the hope the issue will just disappear from the 6 o'clock news. Very different.
    The last time somebody at the Commission tried a stupid stunt (blocking vaccines through the border with Northern Ireland) it was reversed in a matter of hours before it was even implemented. So to answer your question: quite easy if you can energize the European Council.
     
  18. Stuart Frazer

    Stuart Frazer pfm Member

    I would like to see something enshrined in Law that these Water Companies must work towards zero sewage spills into our water courses. I would happy to see a pragmatic approach where upgrade works are prioritised on a scale of say 1-50 years depending on the difficulties and costs involved. However, these are targets the Water Companies must be bound to in Law with massive penalties for missing them.
     
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  19. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

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  20. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Just renationalise them. Paying dividends sucks the investment out
     

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