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Torys vote to keep SH*T in the water.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Dogberry, Oct 26, 2021.

  1. dweezil

    dweezil pfm Member

    Couldn't believe this still happens; with the price of fertiliser today we might as well be sitting on the bank throwing cash in.

    Properly treated sewage is a fantastic resource, give us back that N and P!
    martin clark likes this.
  2. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

  3. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    They can be a bit like that. He had either forgotten that he was administering a potent combination of propofol, etomidate, ketamine and methohexital to you at the time, which obvs induces a degree of vagueness, and presumably the potential for some slackening of the old elastic band, or he just had a lively sense of humour.
  4. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    I'm the last person to blame any crisis on a gullible public. I just don't think the main issue here is a temporary distribution problem, and I wouldn't even say the distribution problem is mainly down to Brexit (neither does the article). There are (national) structural problems with water utilities, and (national, European, global) structural problems with distribution. But again, if you want to ensure these problems are never acknowledged or addressed then blaming the current crises on Brexit is 100% the way to go. It's the exact inverse of right wingers blaming the EU for similar problems, only now the natural reaction will be defensiveness. Temporary, bump in the road, teething issues, EU punishing us, it's covid really, worse in Europe, we'll pull through, Blitz spirit, my grandparents drank raw sewage all through the war and they were grateful for it! etc.
    eternumviti likes this.
  5. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    You seem to have a close knowledge of anaesthetic agents,been to any nightclubs recently?
    TheDecameron likes this.
  6. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    He's a wine merchant. I imagine his choice of anaesthetic agents is more traditional.
  7. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    Reading the Monbiot piece that someone linked to upstream, I was heartened to hear that people are taking the issue into their own hands. With true British grit and determination, the response to shitty rivers is coming from the bottom up.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr likes this.
  8. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    Have you got the local hunt out again?
  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Both actually, he has a black sense of humour.
  10. Colin L

    Colin L High-tech low-life

  11. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Tories and their sense of self-awareness eh? The investigation only existed at all due to his blatant corruption and total disregard for ministerial conduct. I assume his party are all lining up behind him to defend the indefensible as usual.
  12. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    What for? No fallen stock this week.

    Odd question.

    Taking it at face value, what pisses me off is that its only 30 days suspension. I would have thought that this should automatically trigger a by election.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr likes this.
  13. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Agreed. This level of corruption should be a criminal offence punished with real jail time. It is insane that it isn’t. The problem is so rife and so ingrained into the very fabric of Westminster both sides of the house will just turn a blind eye and keep trough-feeding and voting against all democratic accountability as usual. The whole system needs hosing out. It is fundamentally dishonest.
  14. sideshowbob

    sideshowbob Champagne fascia aficionado

    People blithering on about population increase seem to be blissfully unaware that the UK birth rate has been below the replacement rate for years now (the same is true throughout almost the entire developed world), and that within a couple of decades the real crisis is going to be an ageing, shrinking population. Ofc none of this has anything to do with profiteering water companies shitting on our waterways and coasts anyway; that's entirely down to profit.
    paulfromcamden, SteveS1 and gavreid like this.
  15. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

    I am really not too interested in the tactical comms aspect of this. I'm not minimizing the structural issues, decades of under-investment etc. But these have been around for ages: why the escalation of problems now? There are no similar escalations in other countries, AFAICT. We've been given a reason (shortage of basic chemicals) and a root cause (lack of HGV drivers to transport the stuff). If this is real, B****t is clearly a major factor; if not, it's just window dressing put forward by the water companies and the cause is something else. Anybody planning on using British beaches next year should be interested in getting a coherent answer.
  16. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    One of the issue re effluent from the congregations of large pig farms is the complete lack of planning controls
  17. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    Looks like the lords are pushing back to get this thing sorted .going to cost a lot if money though
    MikeMA likes this.
  18. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    No it's not. It's a symptom of water companies being allowed to get away with murder. There's plenty of filth dumped in rural areas with low population densities, and in big cities with high population densities where you can't afford to dump turds in the road they are dealt with.
    sideshowbob and Sue Pertwee-Tyr like this.
  19. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    So you want your pension fund to deliver zero, do you? You first.
  20. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    My supine, worthless, shut for brains excuse for an MP voted for brown rivers, obviously. He's one of Boris's useful idiots.

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