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Torys vote to keep SH*T in the water.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Dogberry, Oct 26, 2021.

  1. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    It’s another symptom of too many people living on a small island. We have very decent infrastructure, which was never intended or designed to cope with current population levels.
     
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  2. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Booyakashah, check out my avatar...

    No it's not. It's a symptom of private ownership starving it of investment, even though it was known that the UK population size was only going to go one way.
     
  3. Cheese

    Cheese Bitter lover

    So either you get some people to leave the country, or the UK adapts the infrastucture to the new situation, like all civilised countries do ?
     
  4. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    It’s the classic business model: buy up privatised publicly run utilities, spend as little as you can legally get away with, suck the cash out and dump the empty husk on the tax payer if your profits are squeezed through fines or price caps.
     
  5. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Greece is in the EU, waters are full of crap. Plastic as well. At sea, the amounts floating around are just unbelievable.
     
  6. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Shareholder profit rules out investment in infrastructure, therefore we must cull the population.

    Thatcherism is just learned helplessness really. Obviously we don’t have very decent infrastructure if we need to hold the population at Victorian levels for it to cope!
     
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  7. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Population 10 million, average annual British tourist numbers 3.4 million, so a reasonable chance the turd that floated past came out of a Brit.
     
  8. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Have to say though this has sweet FA to do with Brexit. It’s the long term running down of infrastructure that goes hand in hand with an extractive economy. The people getting rich from water do not GAF if their “customers” live or die, their stooges represent us in Parliament, so this is what we get.
     
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  9. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

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  10. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Considering nobody’s really been there since 2019, they’re lasting well.
     
  11. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    A million in 2020, probably up this year. Did you bring all yours back?
     
  12. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Probably washed up on an Ionian shore somewhere, along with the rest of it. Their systems can’t even cope with loo roll for heavens sake.
     
  13. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

  14. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    All that needs to happen is to stop paying the leeches - shareholders - dividends, and use the money to build the infrastructure. Make spillages and dumping financially unacceptable for the companies, and setting it to rights will follow.
    I had two separate ear infections requiring anti-biotics from wild swimming this year - the Tees, and Llyn Padarn.
     
  15. billo

    billo pfm Member

    The Tory MP sent on to Newsnight yesterday did not exactly cover himself in glory :)
    His defence of Thames Water was that the crap would be running down the streets if they did not discharge into the water and that the customers would not want a rise in their bills to put it right. No mention of the shareholders dividends or CEO's pay structure
     
  16. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

    A lot of people bought that line.
    Knowing what we know now, I wonder how many still do.
     
  17. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

    How many people do you think the UK would need to deport in order for things to return to normal?
     
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  18. jamjar

    jamjar pfm Member

    57 billion quid paid out in dividends since water privatisation. This is one of the fallouts from privatising something which is essential to life and which also has no in built competition as we all have no choice about who supplies our water. The record for Thames water alone is one of many eye watering examplesv of why utilities need to be publicly owned. With a changing climate, the future of all our utlities needs to be planned for the good of society rather than for short term profit.
     
  19. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

    Except some of the releases are happening due to a shortage of chemicals for water treatment, directly caused by distribution issues that are one of the many unintended consequences Brexit. So not quite FA.
     
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  20. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    I avoid wild swimming problems by not being able to swim.

    Politicians were only persuaded to improve the sewage system in the 19th century by the stench from the Thames making Parliament unusable. Maybe chuck a few Cabinet members into a polluted river for a similar effect.
     
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