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Tory Leadership Runners and Riders

Discussion in 'off topic' started by ks.234, Jul 10, 2022.

  1. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Tugendhat on Sky talking about ‘sound money’. He seems to be calling for a return to the gold standard. Is this a good idea? How does going back to such ‘sound money’ fit with a ‘clean start’?
     
  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    He’s on Sophie Ridge’s show right now playing the big soldier patriot and trying desperately not to be a transphobe without actually saying anything.

    Definitely in the ‘tax-cutting Tory’ category. Has cited NI and fuel duty. These will be popular.

    Given just how bonkers/evil the rest of the pack he’s probably the one Starmer needs to be most worried about.

    PS The candidate currently using the name ‘Grant Shapps’ has just appeared…
     
  3. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Sound money is a term a lot crypto people use. Gold will be the last thing he means if that is the case.
     
  4. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Grant Shapps saying he’ll cut public spending, because we haven’t had enough of that already.
     
  5. Bart

    Bart pfm Member

    Just when we thought things could only get better.
     
  6. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    It's much of a muchness, ultimately, but there's a good chance that all of the leadership candidates will be somewhat worse than Boris Johnson.

    By which I mean all of them will be more right wing (pro-austerity, more authoritarian) and more capable of executing their policies.

    So yes, things can definitely get worse.
     
  7. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    Jeremy Hunt says he will appoint Esther McVey as deputy PM if he wins. The dream team?
     
  8. mhv

    mhv pfm Member

    Just seen the Tom Hugendhat interview - a bit of a car crash really. How many times did he say ‘10 year plan’ and ‘clean start’? Seemingly unable to think on his feet, relying on sound bites instead. Rather a ‘strong and stable’ vibe.
     
  9. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    My B/S bingo card spontaniously combusted after 16 "clean starts". The candidate list is looking a complete cnut soup. This idea that taxes and public spending can be slashed as we take advantage of our "Brexit freedoms"* is just obscene fantasy. We are soooo fvcked.

    * expect this to join 'clean starts' as a worthless slogan.
     
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  10. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    I have a hunch that Ben Wallace will wait until the other candidates have torn great chunks out of each other, then, at the last possible moment, throw his hat into the ring as the 'unity' candidate. His line will be 'I didn't want to take on this huge responsibility, but in the light of recent events, feel that I have no alternative but to stand for the good of the country and the party'.
     
  11. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    That will hopefully damage him. She is hated by many Tories in her own constituency (I know one), absolutely detested on Merseyside where she lost her seat, and stained nationally by the vicious cruelty of her time with IDS ensuring those on benefits all starved. I can’t see her being a popular choice anywhere really. The poster definition of the term ‘snide’.
     
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  12. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Well there all going to be like that aren't they?

    It will be Tory cliche after cliche to win their base over.
     
  13. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Alan Sugar on the Apprentice-like standard of the candidates (Twitter).
     
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  14. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    In a sane world it would. However...
     
  15. Weekender

    Weekender pfm Member

    Remain Hunt hasn't a hope.
    What an absolute shower though.
     
  16. Euan

    Euan pfm Member

    We should have seen this coming years ago.

     
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  17. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Just been watching the Saj. Very keen on tax cuts (not unfunded ones, he’s due to publish his plan). There’s a corp tax rise due in April from 19% to 25%. That’s a 31% increase. The Saj (and Hunt) will reduce CT to 15%.
     
  18. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    Tax cuts won't be 'unfunded', they'll be used as an excuse to cut public services still further. It's what Tories do.
     
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  19. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    This is the fundamental point. We need MIck Lynch to come on and say “so which public cuts are you going to cut to pay for it” and when they say they won’t cut services but look at efficiency savings, has can justifiably call them a “liar”.

    We’ve had efficient savings for years and years, and they look just that same as cuts. These people need to be called out for what they are; Liars
     
  20. Suffolk Tony

    Suffolk Tony Aim low, achieve your goals, avoid disappointment.

    Sajid Javid and Rishi Sunak have both vowed to reduce corporation tax from 25% to 15% if they become prime minister, which, by a bizarre coincidence, is exactly what their wealthy corporate donors want them to do.
     

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