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Tory leadership failure Part V: Rishi Sunak

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Tony L, Oct 24, 2022.

  1. farfromthesun

    farfromthesun pfm Member

  2. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

  3. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    In fairness the grift is the point.
  4. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member

    Cruella escapes. Rishi backs down.
  5. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    They're at it again, like ferrets in a sack. Boris in stitch up, Sunak or the wicked civil service blob to blame, votes of no confidence in Sunak threatened. I love the smell of civil war in the Tory Party.


    The blob:


    here’s another almost identical blob:

  6. linvc

    linvc pfm Member

    Wow - scary likeness
  7. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    Of course. Sunak promised when he became PM that his government would have integrity, professionalism and accountability. That's why he reinstated Braverman as Home Secretary within a week of her losing her job for breaches of the ministerial code.

    This is just the latest example of it. :rolleyes:
  8. Nero

    Nero Don’t call me Bud

    I heard the term snivel service blob today for the first time. I was quite amused by that one
  9. kensalriser

    kensalriser pfm Member

    All part of the descent into Trump style juvenilism.
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  10. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Politicians who make “inaccurate or divisive claims” about child sexual abuse and grooming gangs undermine efforts to tackle the crime and almost certainly make children less safe, organisations and experts in the subject have warned in an unprecedented joint letter.

    The letter, signed by 50 researchers and more than a dozen organisations, including the NSPCC and Victim Support, urges Suella Braverman and Rishi Sunak to avoid narratives on abuse based on “misinformation, racism and division”.
  11. Nero

    Nero Don’t call me Bud

    I was just reading John Crace’s latest piece, and my eye was drawn to one of the comments BTL.

    “Oh, the Jilly Cooper thing is clever, just like Johnson and painting buses. if you google sunak-cooper you get that he reads her books, rather than the fact that Yvette Cooper tears his HS a new one every time they meet.
    Just the same way the Johnson separated himself from the £350 million buses.
    They have learned how to f*ck up internet searches, soon they will develop intelligence

    I hadn’t appreciated that this was why they made stupid claims about Johnson’s bus hobby or Sunak’s reading list. I’m getting too old and slow to keep up.
  12. Darmok

    Darmok "In Lation, Trans Lost."

    I learnt so much reading BTL comments on J Craces and M Hynes op-eds on the Groan.

    You do know that voting is NOT a confidential secret ballot, Just look on the flip side of all of your ballot papers, their is a number printed there.

    The issuer ticks a box against your address on the voting ledger which matches the numbered ballet paper the issuer is just about to give you.

    All of them spoilt ballet papers are added to the vote count have had their numbers printed on the flip side have been scribbled out and obscured by the suspiciously aroused voters.

    Us intelligent subjects here are not concerned with any politicians, we are in the minority, they just have to brainwash the stupid's to gain an easy majority.

    Remember George Orwell's dystopian novel, we are at the mercy of all of them uneducated gullible proles. :mad:
  13. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    See this just in from Newt Gingrich, no less: “One of Trump’s great advantages is he talks at a level where third, fourth and fifth grade educations can say, ‘Oh yeah, I get that. I understand it.’” Gingrich told host Laura Ingraham on her Fox News show.

    These guys are out to exploit the power of stupid people in large groups.
  14. ks.234

    ks.234 Half way to Infinity

    Who are these stupid people? Many supposedly intelligent people believe really stupid things as much as any other group.
  15. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    No argument with that. People of all IQs routinely avoid critical thinking, especially any that might lead to problems in their identity group. I was speaking imprecisely; the demagogues, self-admittedly here and previously, consciously target the *uneducated.* Which is a significant distinction.
  16. Richard Lines

    Richard Lines pfm Member

  17. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

  18. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Disingenuous nonsense.
    The fact that if necessary ballot papers can be tracked does NOT mean it is not a confidential, secret ballot.
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  19. ks.234

    ks.234 Half way to Infinity

    I can’t comment about the US, but in the UK it seems to be more about targeting the popular vote on issues that seem to have little to do with education. Issues like xenophobia, immigration, Empire, our glorious past, monarchy, flag waving and a household model of the economy, all of which seem to cross educational and class divides.

    In this country (and the US?) these issues seem to coincide with an instinctive trust in a ruling elite that is so strong that the opposition has to emulate both it and those values. Brexit and Trump both seemed to benefit from a disappointment with the ‘usual’ politics of the elite, but in both cases rather than voting for a difference of substance, the electorate voted for a different kind of elite.

    We have just swapped Cameron for Johnson and Obama for Trump.

    The problem in both cases is rather more foundational.
  20. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    Leaders have choices in how to lead, and in how to get to be leaders. Followers have choices in what 'elite' to follow. Either or both can make bad choices.

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