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Tory Britain

Discussion in 'off topic' started by ks.234, May 17, 2022.

  1. wulbert

    wulbert pfm Member

    Yes. The nasty party are in charge and Britain is becoming a nastier place by the day.

    ( Is the House of Commons usually that empty? Where is the "Turbo-Charging our Economy" work taking place? )
  2. miktec

    miktec unissued

  3. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Pending

    Indeed. With politicians of Ms Black’s calibre it’s no great surprise the SNP has widespread support. Hell, if she stood in my constituency, I’d vote for her (especially if she could get Manchester as part of Scotland).
    lordsummit, Dozey, Konteebos and 8 others like this.
  4. russel

    russel ./_dazed_and_confused

    Giffen goods are staples that go up in times of austerity as most people cannot afford more expensive alternatives, so the poor shopping for potatoes for their gruel dip notice a price increase but as there is no change or a decrease in demand for luxury goods the price doesn’t change or even falls. So someone with a basket of caviar, foie gras, quails eggs and swan stuffed with widgeon won’t see any inflation.
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  5. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    I'm now trying to get my head around the concept of Manchester as part of Scotland.

    It's not going well.
  6. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Try Manchuria.
  7. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    You've lost me.
  8. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    It's dereliction of duty as far as I'm concerned. An absolute disgrace.
  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    They merely give the appearance of doing something and when they actually do do something, it’s with themselves in mind.

    Take Gove, once their most strident mouthpiece, one minute he’s the levelling up man, the next he’s “Minister for the Union” (once Boris became bored with the work that came with the appellation ). He threatened to be in Scotland every week conducting HM Govt business as a show of force. He came once to Glasgow as a stunt, once to Aberdeen where he was seen dancing by himself in a night club.

    They move from one crisis to the next, one photo opportunity to another and the stuff they do create is repressive ( Patel’s anti-protest legislation, Rwanda detention camps) and divisive ( Northern Ireland). When they’re eventually kicked out they will leave a trail of wreckage beyond anything even Margaret Hilda was capable of.
    Last edited: May 21, 2022
    Jimin, Garrard 401, PsB and 4 others like this.
  10. Minio

    Minio Not flakey and never soggy ...

    Likewise when I was in Aldi's only last week I noticed how reasonably priced the beer and wine was.
    Cheaper than before the pandemic. The new high hopped beers, in particular, have been discounted considerably.

    With the annual increases in benefits, pensions etc it seems to be more affordable to become an alcoholic these days.

    I didn't really look at the other prices.

    ... hic...
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  11. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    I believe one of the proposals to deal with the rising cost of living that this government will publish next week is to stay pissed until the next General Election.
  12. Minio

    Minio Not flakey and never soggy ...

    I've just been to Sainsburys and they are selling doughnuts at 5 for a quid.

    Now that lockdowns are over one of the most economical expenditures in these hard times is to have cake and ale parties like what our illustrious leaders did.
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  13. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I'm not sure why food is cheaper in the UK than the rest of Europe, this has been the case for 20 years to my knowledge. It's a known fact in the food industry. As to the timing of price rises, bear in mind that there are advance contracts and that things like grain were harvested last year so fuel costs etc were at 2021 rates. They will come, just not yet.
    The minimum wage thing is interesting. I remember as a 16 year old casual farm labourer my agreed NFU official pay rate was £1 an hour. Actually I think it was a shade less. Plug that into the CPI inflation calculator and you get £3.60. A 16 year old is now paid £4.81, so they're slightly better off. It matches my memory that back then my pound would buy about 1.2 pints in a pub, now maybe a shade more (cheap rural pubs).
    A further observation of the introduction of minimum wage has been that it has improved the lot of the unskilled labourer, however in my reckoning at the cost of those one rung up. I see this in food factories, where people putting chicken in a box get the lowest rate, typically slightly above min wage, and line leaders and so on get only a few pence more an hour. The legitimate complaint I hear is that they are taking on a lot more responsibility for maybe only another £20 a week. Unsurprisingly a lot then turn it down because a few hours of OT a month makes up the difference.
    glenda and TheDecameron like this.
  14. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B for more years than I care to remember

    When visiting UK cousins over the years I have noticed how cheap food was compared to Ireland. Aldi/Lidl certainly made a difference in Ireland and perhaps we are now on a relative par.

    However another thing I noticed when in the UK was how low wages were compared to Ireland. I’ve since presumed that the government needed cheaper food in order to (a) run the country (b) make sure their friends made maximum profits- take your pick depending on your political orientation but certainly from an Irish perspective average food price are lower in the UK and average wages are also. Maybe when the economic historians get a chance to look at all this there may be a clearer explanation re policy decisions that made this situation occur.

  15. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    Remember that 1984 is a manual for this lot, drinking was all that the masses had (Victory Gin etc) in their austerity
  16. Enfield boy

    Enfield boy pfm Member

    I guess about 56 have been told to stay away and another hundred or so have suddenly come over all faint.
    ff1d1l and TheDecameron like this.
  17. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Marie Antoinette was right…
  18. Enfield boy

    Enfield boy pfm Member

    Let them eat cack?
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr likes this.
  19. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

  20. chartz

    chartz If it’s broke fix it!

    We have the same politicians in France. Our favourite Tory in disguise is called…?

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