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Top ten iconic turntables ...

Discussion in 'audio' started by dave charlton, Nov 30, 2022.

  1. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    To my mind ‘iconic’ is a combination of truly exceptional design and lasting desirability. It is the stuff that remains highly sought-after long, long after its time. That is certainly how I framed my choices. A 301, 124, SL1200 MkII etc is the E-Type or Leica of turntable design. The Brinkman is the equivalent of a current range-topping high-spec Canon digital camera. Clearly very good, but ultimately no one will care in 40 years.
    RJohan likes this.
  2. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Someone who knows very little about audio and even less about equipment design and obtaining great audio performance.
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  3. dave charlton

    dave charlton <><><><><><><><><>

    And some people think they know it all :rolleyes: Looking forward to parts 2 & 3 :)
    Old Shatterhand, JTC and tpetsch like this.
  4. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    I rather liked the fact that it wasn't a list of megabucks superdecks. Most of the turntables he mentioned were well designed, to a price, and affordable. Even the 301 was £25 in 1954 (equivalent to about £500 today).

    That's far more interesting to me than blingy £100k oligarch decks.
    RJohan, Tim Jones and SONDEKNZ like this.
  5. Beobloke

    Beobloke pfm Member

    As I said elsewhere, no ADC Accutrac 4000, no Nakamichis, no Beogram 4000 and three bouncy belt drives that are all pretty similar (and the wrong Thorens - it should have been the TD150!)

    I'm underwhelmed by his choices, frankly.
  6. palacefan

    palacefan pfm Member

    He owns Pearl Acoustics and he designed the highly regarded loudspeaker shown in that video.
  7. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    Exactly, the relevance is bland
  8. tenpercenter

    tenpercenter Don't ya rile 'em.....

    Any list should include the original Pink Triangle deck - sonically way ahead of the competition at the time and included real design innovations
    Si74, wiresandmore, Ben&Ted and 4 others like this.
  9. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Hmmm. Maybe a legend in his own mind...

    Anyone who designs a loudspeaker with a single 4" driver really needs a lesson or two in acoustics and loudspeaker design.
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2022
  10. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    I think 'iconic' is fine as it stands. The Mini wasn't the best performing car of the 1960s but it's no less iconic than the E-Type.
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  11. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    Putting a single 4" driver in a cabinet is purely DIY, even I could possible find out.
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  12. ssimon

    ssimon pfm Member

    As has been said, Iconic does not mean best, he must be close with his choices, if the esteemed Tony L has over half the same on his list.
    Old Shatterhand likes this.
  13. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Couldn't agree more...
    Jono_13 likes this.
  14. per-Sony-fied

    per-Sony-fied Me in another jacket

    Disappointed. How could he mis out the AT Soundburger ;):)
    stony, Sue Pertwee-Tyr and Beobloke like this.
  15. palacefan

    palacefan pfm Member

    Personally I have no interest in Iconic turntables from that list but the reviews of the Sibelius speaker have been exceptionally good not withstanding your comments, I bow to your expertise.

    He comes across as a decent affable man to me rather in audio terms like the old country man from years back " jack Hargreaves "

    He also gets involved with classical music recording.
  16. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    Sold out and limited ?
  17. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    If 'iconic' means design innovation/uniqueness and decades of (future?) reliability and popularity, I'd put Tom Fletcher's T/Ts up there; at least the heavy platter ones. Hardly innovative except for the skeleton-like and minimalist appearance, the Orbe etc. has been going now for over a generation. The old fruit-box is surely only iconic 'cos everybody and his dog (HMV?) has had one or lusted after one; design-wise, nothing special or innovative.
  18. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    Just for fun I asked Google. Seems pretty clear.

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    SONDEKNZ Kiwi, now living in Hangzhou, CHINA

    Wow! Tough crowd here.

    I thought this chap did quite well and was very sincere.

    This stuff is all highly subjective - like telling someone how you like your steak cooked - so no surprise that each of our own lists would differ somewhat.


    Like paulfromcamden I was rather relieved that he didn't wade through a long list of megabuck machines on his list.

    My pick for his showroom was a late model TECHNICS 1200, so I got that wrong.

    I'll certainly give part 2 a look...
  20. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    I never liked the sound from the old Technics decks.
    Looked awfully too.

    Must admit I went with a GR and later a MK7L (upstairs).
    Got slowly used to the looks
    Impressed by the build (apart from cue lever) and performance.
    So easy to have a wide range of cartridges in head shells in use
    Doubt I'd bother with other decks from now.
    SONDEKNZ likes this.

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