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Thinking of selling it all, or massive downgrade at least......

Discussion in 'audio' started by badger748, Apr 7, 2021.

  1. Fretbuzz

    Fretbuzz pfm Member

    Seems a good idea to mothball it and see if you can 'make do' with/even enjoy something much simpler.

    Hobbies of all things shouldn't feel burdensome.
  2. Colin L

    Colin L LOU Attitude Adjuster

    Badger, Yup, you went into the deep end :D
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  3. Jono_13

    Jono_13 Duffer

    The Naim Atom works for me, but then I have always been an entry level kind of a person. My only weakness was a pair of Tannoy Cheviots which second hand were very reasonable.

    We did run a Beosound2 with TT for a while and I could have lived with it, or a pair, quite happily.

    Good luck with your search @badger748 , but I think you are right to focus on ease of access to music for everyone in the house.
  4. RoA

    RoA Well-Known Member

    You are in a fortunate position and I can't see many issues with you trying new options whilst keeping your old system.

    The only thing that would worry me looking at your history is that you further accumulate without getting rid of stuff ...
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  5. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    Nice one Tim! I think at it's core, the music and life balance matters more than the equipment. I am going through similar with cars and watches.
    Cars down from 6 to 4. Soon to be 3. (for 2 of us!)
    Watches down from 20+ to 7 I think? (Lucy has her Nomos and I wear my GS pretty much every day).

    Hi-fi is just a natural progression of where i'm at in life I think. As has been said a few times, as we get older, priorities change and the need to "willy wave" gets less and less.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr, booja30 and TimF like this.
  6. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    We've crossed paths in our journey a few times Colin, having similar tastes at various points. I think when I had Gryphon and Wilson Benesch Torus?
    Happy days eh !
  7. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    Additional points - for me to sell some / majority / all the existing system requires buyers! I def "won't fire" sale it cheap as chips. Would def wait for right buyers, right price and mothball if not. Money isn't the main motivator here.

    And, if I did the mothballing, and got a new system in and running for 6 mths - if i yearned for the old one - i'd bring it back and put the new one up for sale or move it to our Devon place we are searching for. So a second system wouldn't be redundant as such.
  8. Eyebroughty

    Eyebroughty JohnC


    Why don't you buy a smaller system, say something like a second hand Linn DSM and a pair of Shaninian Arcs, you will not lose money and for the cost it will show you what can be achieved for quite a small outlay.

    Or if not the Linn then there are plenty of other similar products.

    Then if you find you cannot live with the cheaper system you sell it and keep what you have.


  9. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    I pretty much just said that John!
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  10. crimsondonkey

    crimsondonkey pfm Member

    Hifi must be amongst the worst of the money pit hobbies for ridding you of money whilst delivering mere glimpses of satisfaction interspersed over long periods of anxiety and delusions of missing out on some elusive thing that would make it all worth while.

    I've gone through a similar process a few years back, building up a lot of kit at great expense and then deciding to get rid of it all and go for a much cheaper and simpler set up. Then a few years later the itch got me going and I've ended up with horns etc and a nice vinyl set up and the expensive folly that is R2R and prerecorded tapes. As long as you still get enjoyment from it then I'd say keep it, but if you're nagged by the feeling that there's something more worthwhile to do with your time and money, then you're probably right! Its only 'stuff' after all.
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  11. Eyebroughty

    Eyebroughty JohnC

    Yes, I think we posted at almost the same time :D
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  12. RoA

    RoA Well-Known Member

    What a problem to have.
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  13. Colin L

    Colin L LOU Attitude Adjuster

    The Toruses went to my brother. You've got some lovely stuff, but I can understand your desire to reduce the profile, if not the SQ.
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  14. Hungry Halibut

    Hungry Halibut pfm Member

    Downsizing is something I did about ten years ago in a very significant way. The smaller system I ended up with didn’t really quite do it so I gradually upsized to something I was really happy with. Early last year I lost the hearing in one ear. While I can still enjoy music it made me question how much hifi I needed. I had speakers that need about two hours to set up, and an expensive mains block and various fancy leads all of which made a big difference, or so I’d convinced myself. Somehow what I had felt wrong, and I started looking at other things. I tried an all in one but it didn’t really work for me. In the end I bought an integrated amp and some very small speakers, which I coupled with a very good source. All the fancy wires went. I ended up with something that’s simpler, neater and somehow just feels right. It’s like the system fits into the room without dominating it.

    There is I’m sure a sensible middle way. I have no knowledge of the equipment you own, having been a boring Naimee for nearly 40 years, and it looks like huge efforts have been made to get it perfect. But if it feels wrong then it’s not going to make you happy. Maybe a good integrated amp and some smaller speakers, with your DCS and a Rega, might work for you. I’ve certainly found simplifying things has been wholly for the good, and I can’t say I enjoy music any less, in fact I probably enjoy it more.
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  15. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    I wouldn't say it was a problem - just a desire to make change.
    Real problems i have in life are very different!
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  16. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    I remember your journey on the Naim forum 15 yrs ago at a guess! We spoke often on there, when I built up to the 552/500.

    Funnily enough I've often thought back to you and your system changes in recent weeks. I was in Rowlands Castle the other day, saw Emsworth sign, i think that is where you are? The hi-fi shouldn't dominate our "living" room and it does. When i sold off the bedroom system, the extra space was quickly filled with houseplants, but that just adds to the calm, the ambience. Mrs Badger loves it and it always makes our bedroom just feel a bit nicer. I won't add more there, but with the B&O Stage soundbar, Barry White sounds brilliant!
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  17. Bas V

    Bas V pfm Member

    You missed something booja: "Then listen to an 803, you’ll be even more surprised."

    If only that would have those lovely VU meters...:cool:
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  18. Colin L

    Colin L LOU Attitude Adjuster

    BEDROOM SYSTEM!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::D
  19. booja30

    booja30 pfm Member

    No, I don't think anyone meant that. It's more likely to have a monopoly on not being repairable or going (at least partly) obsolete down the road. If you keep your pre/amp separate from your digital stuff then you can swap out the digital side as tech evolves/things break, but keep your analog amplification running indefinitely. Case in point, my 45 year old analog only Sansui AU-717 (that I bring up way too much) that I overhauled last year.


    If it had had an 8 track built in it (excuse the feeble comparison to high end modern all-in-one units) it would have become partially obsolete and/or broken 30 years ago, and IMO less worthy of preserving.

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  20. badger748

    badger748 Like en eel. But in reverse.

    Fair point - stuff that is more difficult to repair (the Lavardin thread springs to mind) is very valid.

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