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The John Westlake/Lakewest MDAC/FDAC, VFET and Detox

Discussion in 'audio' started by Tony L, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. raysablade

    raysablade pfm Member

    The RME ADI2 is available from pro audio dealers who are well used to the concept of extended trials, if you decide to include that one on your candidate list. It offeres a lot of extra functionality, beyond that of the usual suspects, as well as excellent sonic ability.
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2021
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  2. nostromo

    nostromo Member

    Yes, of course. But even so, your comment as an audiophile has worth (to me for sure). It's against the consensus here (and I like that). These new generation DACs are supposed to be in another league if the reviews/figures are to be believed. I guess I need to listen for myself. The chip 'house' sound observation is a good one too. I recall JW saying that he'd taken the new ESS chips are far as he could and didn't think it was a good enough improvement to satisfy us here or that the sound could be bettered from an R2R design. JW also prefers the 'analogue' sound, I think (hope!), he has good ears.
  3. Space is the Place

    Space is the Place pfm Member

    Oh my Gosh! Struggle with your quandary no more!

    Buy another Dac!

    You've got more chance of seeing five Albino's driving around in a Subaru Impreza, one of the Albino's worshiped under the Eiffel Tower as a god, by 500 Chinese kids with bleached hair, than seeing the FDAC!
    Tigerjones, evand, Dodeth and 6 others like this.
  4. nostromo

    nostromo Member

    I think the one I have is an NOS (not sure about the Filterless bit) and to me it's a lot better than the MDAC.
  5. Rune

    Rune pfm Member

    John has also said that AKM sound better than ESS but still not as good as a discreate DAC, but then we have moved up considerably in price point.
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  6. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    • And you would take the word for a proven fantasist (the politest term I can think of) for this .....
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  7. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    I think the akm 4499 sounds better than the ess 9038 pro, at least in the dacs I've heard. (Think). I couldn't rule out bias though.
  8. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator


    Any chance people can take general DAC discussion, chip types etc over onto a fresh thread. I’d really like this one to remain tightly focused on the stakeholders and project progress.
    Dodeth likes this.
  9. Reenberg

    Reenberg pfm Member

    Yes please. Anyone heard anything from John the last 4 months?
  10. s1h1

    s1h1 performing within expectations

    I can't access the Facebook group any more, and requests to rejoin have been ignored.
  11. ti33er

    ti33er pfm Member

    There was chat on FB from John W up to 31st December but I’m unable to paste from there with my iPhone
  12. Mike P

    Mike P pfm Member

    He's active over on diyaudio
  13. bizxo

    bizxo Member

    This is the text of the last post on FB page on 31.12.2020 - 22:13:

    "Best Wishes for the New Year, and looking forward to shipping First DAC's in the coming months :)"

    There is also a longer and more informative post on 19.11.2020, I can copy the text here if this is allowed.

  14. gints

    gints pfm Member

    Yes, please, I am sure it is allowed. Some mediating here is welcome.
  15. killie99

    killie99 pfm Member

    Just so you are aware, I posted comments from his Facebook page on to here a few years ago and was immediately banned from the Facebook group.
  16. jamjar784

    jamjar784 Heavy Up

    That's just not the behaviour you'd expect from a trustworthy, award winning electronics designer. So petty, so sad. He made all his promises here and can't face his stakeholders :(
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  17. bizxo

    bizxo Member

    Hi killie99

    Thank you for advising me.

    I was not considering that on FB the group is closed (simply I forgot it, I joined 2 years ago) so copying text out of the group could be considered controversial.

    So I hope that John himself will report also here the updates, after all here is where all began.

    Sorry but in the future I will avoid copying text without explicit permission, and I apologize if such behavior has caused disturbance.

  18. Dodeth

    Dodeth pfm Member

    I was very tempted but, thankfully, I didn’t.
  19. Asphaltradler

    Asphaltradler pfm Member

    So best wishes for 2021 are only for FB group and access to that is restricted.
    Is shipping of DACs "in coming months" only for FB goups, also?

    Well it won't happen anyway.
    Darren likes this.
  20. sam_cat

    sam_cat C'est Crounchifique!

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