The appeal of retro hifi

[RustyB]

You'll have to make some retro speakers now, James.

 

[Nickargenta]

I haven't gone down the retro route yet (unless you count an old Revolver tt) but I suspect that if I hang around here long enough I'll succumb eventually.

 

[Robert]

Looks to me like maybe they should have left longer leads on the diodes to space them off the board.

I have a Pioneer SA9800 here and that had a very similar issue, plus a regulator running too hot without a heatsink. Now replaced, sinked and working fine.
Pioneer from this period is generally excellent.

 

[Yank]

Pioneer sold that line of components here under the brand name "Series 20". I had a Series 20 tonearm once that was quite nice.

 

[Yank]

Incidentally, I could not detect a great deal of difference. Certainly not enough for me to sit up and pay attention or think that I'm missing something with the single amp configuration.

Heresy!

 

[davidsrsb]

Excellent stuff James

The plan for a small fan is a good one for longevity. Picking-up demotivated's point you can run '12v' pc-style fans off a 7805 voltage reg just fine for less airflow but total silence. (you don't need a gale anyway, just a bit of air movement will help enormously)

8v is about right to run a 12V fan slow and quiet. PC fans are usually 12V nominal and very cheap for the quality. The rule is Bigger is Quieter

 

[James]

You'll have to make some retro speakers now, James.

A pair of NS-1000M would go nicely. Or may be a new take on a classic 12" AR 3-way.

 

[James]

I have a Pioneer SA9800 here and that had a very similar issue, plus a regulator running too hot without a heatsink. Now replaced, sinked and working fine.
Pioneer from this period is generally excellent.

I regret selling my SA-9800, but it had a dry joint, and I foolishly traded it in for a Musical Fidelity A-100. Duh!

 

[James]

If you want a 220V or 110V fan built like a tank, I suggest looking at the PABST 4000N series (http://www.ebmpapst.us/allpdfs/4000N.PDF).

This is what Audio Research put in some of their tube amplifiers. Really quiet, and no plastic housing or blade in sight!

The 12V plastic-bladed fan I found is quieter.

 

[James]

Heresy!

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!

Pioneer sold that line of components here under the brand name "Series 20". I had a Series 20 tonearm once that was quite nice.

Did you also have the Series 20 turntable to go with that arm? I'd really REALLY like to find a mint PLC-590.

 

[Yank]

Shhhhhhhhhh!!!


Did you also have the Series 20 turntable to go with that arm? I'd really REALLY like to find a mint PLC-590.

No, just the arm.

 

[James]

Retro hifi wet dream for the taking for anyone with a spare £6,548.54.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-5...0001&campid=5338728743&icep_item=170986787931

 

[S-Man]

That's daylight knobery!

 

[arthur]

Awesome!

Wish I had the cash.

That would do perfectly to active amp my trios.

 

[topa]

A bit cheaper:
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/707-5...0001&campid=5338728743&icep_item=321065509390

 

[James]

A bit cheaper:
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/707-5...0001&campid=5338728743&icep_item=321065509390

Never much cared for the SPEC amps, but I'd have the PLC-590 in a heartbeat.

 

[topa]

hehe, same here.
hard to find a good one though.

 

[jamesd]

Those might be the nicest looking amps I've ever seen.

 

[James]

They sound amazingly good. If I don't need more than two channels of amplification or my remote, the Densens could easily become redundant. Just waiting to build my ventilation platform now.

 

[James]

Had RustyB and a friend over this morning. My fears have been confirmed. The Pioneer C-21/M-22 combo is better than the Densen B-250/B-350s, by a majority of 3-0. The Japanese relics sound more palpable, more organic, more musical and more enjoyable than the modern Danes.

Crap.