Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
When drivers are out of place on a scrambled grid, they often seem to be about where they belong by the end of the race.
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When drivers are out of place on a scrambled grid, they often seem to be about where they belong by the end of the race.
clivem2
pfm Member
“often seem to be about”., quite…it’s not an exact science so it’s not the only way to compare drivers. There are lots of other factors to take in account and about how starting positions impact finishing positions.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Maybe a quick look at his record pre and post F1 might help you get that. Having watched F1 since the days of Hill, Clark and Stewart I never thought a British driver would get near JS's record and for many more years I began to think I'd never see a Brit get a couple of WCs.
Conversely, I don't understand the British haters. Their support for other drivers with highly questionable attitudes, personalities and behaviours makes it even more mystifying. Given the way Alonso is performing in a better car, I wouldn't be too sure Hamilton has stopped adding to his collection of records yet. It's a great pity imo that the Mercs are so far off the pace, the summer into autumn 2021 was some of the best racing I've seen in years.
Great drivers with car set ups that produced different performance edges circuit to circuit, which is how it should be.
flutteringwow
She called me baby, like an old romantic
tones
Tones deaf
Thank goodness for this:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f...th-drivers-over-pre-race-show-plans/10467118/
I thought this was the most appalling nonsense. Of course, F1 drivers are virtual unknowns even to the bulk of the US motorsport public, and the low American participation (one driver and a low-ranking team) doesn't help. (Although I believe that Mario Andretti is trying to get a second US team involved).
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/f...th-drivers-over-pre-race-show-plans/10467118/
I thought this was the most appalling nonsense. Of course, F1 drivers are virtual unknowns even to the bulk of the US motorsport public, and the low American participation (one driver and a low-ranking team) doesn't help. (Although I believe that Mario Andretti is trying to get a second US team involved).
Enfield boy
pfm Member
Miami reminded me of the "presentation of the princesses" to Lord Farquhad in Shrek 1. Utterly risible.
tuga
Legal Alien
Have you always supported British drivers?
I've never had any Portuguese drivers to support so I've supported all sorts, mostly for their driving qualities but sometimes for their personality (including a brit named Mansel with 2 lls).
Uncle Roach
pfm Member
You’re probably too young to remember this guy:
Pedro LamyEdit
Lamy driving for Minardi at the 1996 San Marino Grand Prix
Pedro Lamy made his debut for Lotus at the 1993 Italian Grand Prix, replacing the injured Alessandro Zanardi for the final four races of the 1993 season.[5] Ahead of the fifth race of the 1994 season, Lamy was himself injured in a testing accident at Silverstone while trialling new technical regulations set out by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile, Formula 1's governing body, following the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna at the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix several weeks earlier.[6] Lamy suffered broken legs and kneecaps in the crash and did not return until the 1995 season, when he raced for Minardi. He later became the first Portuguese driver to score a world championship point with a 6th-place finish at the 1995 Australian Grand Prix.[7] Following a second season with Minardi in 1996, Lamy left Formula One after 32 Grands Prix to compete in sports cars.[5]
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
tuga
Legal Alien
You’re probably too young to remember this guy:
Pedro LamyEdit
Lamy driving for Minardi at the 1996 San Marino Grand Prix
Pedro Lamy made his debut for Lotus at the 1993 Italian Grand Prix, replacing the injured Alessandro Zanardi for the final four races of the 1993 season.[5] Ahead of the fifth race of the 1994 season, Lamy was himself injured in a testing accident at Silverstone while trialling new technical regulations set out by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile, Formula 1's governing body, following the deaths of Roland Ratzenberger and Ayrton Senna at the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix several weeks earlier.[6] Lamy suffered broken legs and kneecaps in the crash and did not return until the 1995 season, when he raced for Minardi. He later became the first Portuguese driver to score a world championship point with a 6th-place finish at the 1995 Australian Grand Prix.[7] Following a second season with Minardi in 1996, Lamy left Formula One after 32 Grands Prix to compete in sports cars.[5]
He's only one year older than me, his dad owned a car dealer not far from my secondary school. He never did much.
There was also Pedro Matos Chaves.
What about Tiago Monteiro? Pretty good actually, so much so he came third at the USA GP (shhhhhh - I know there were only 6 runners
).Tumeni Notes
pfm Member
When LeClerc went off in .... FP2 or Qualifying, can't recall which, did others notice he was going nose first toward the barriers, and then turned 180 degrees to end up with the back end buried?
Am I alone in thinking he did this deliberately to avoid foobaring the front end?
Am I alone in thinking he did this deliberately to avoid foobaring the front end?
tuga
Legal Alien
What about Tiago Monteiro? Pretty good actually, so much so he came third at the USA GP (shhhhhh - I know there were only 6 runners
I stopped watching in 1998 and have only recently regained interest.
Cav
pfm Member
If it was deliberate, I suspect he would prefer the gearbox was smashed rather than his legs...
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
I can here Brundle saying, if he’d been commentating then, “And there’s Ronnie, losing three or four tenths!”This was when I was really interested in F1. Ronny P sideways
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
The front of the tub is as strong as the rest. After Laffite’s crash on the first lap at Brands 37 years ago, the rules changed so that feet had to be behind the front axle line, and this allowed for far stronger carbon tubs. Perhaps he preferred the idea of not getting a sore neck, even with HANS, and bruises from straps.
Paul R
pfm Member
It was a low speed impact, and gearbox damage is much more expensive than the nose structure given the number of gearbox cases is limited by the rules.
Also, if you look at the onboard, he steers in to the final rotation, which he wouldn't be doing if it were deliberate. I think the run off area had random and variable levels of grip, so which way you ended up facing was chance.
Also, if you look at the onboard, he steers in to the final rotation, which he wouldn't be doing if it were deliberate. I think the run off area had random and variable levels of grip, so which way you ended up facing was chance.
Yank
Bulbous Also Tapered
Too bad Indy Car racing didn't adopt similar standards in time to help Alex Zanardi.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Indycar seemed determined to kill as many drivers as possible for many years. I refuse to watch it even now.