hifinutt
hifinutt
Those are 7's surely? Or a very distorted photo??
yes just a distorted pic , they are the shl5plus
Tannoy Legacy vs Harbeth
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yes just a distorted pic , they are the shl5plus
Disarmamant
Certified foo free
I had a demo pair of the new Tannoy Eaton’s here on home demo for a week up against my Harbeth SHL5 Plus.
No contest in my room, I much preferred the Harbeths, the Tannoys went back to the dealer.
No contest in my room, I much preferred the Harbeths, the Tannoys went back to the dealer.
How so? Would you mind sharing? Cheers!
hifinutt
hifinutt
some more thoughts here on the range
https://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/tannoy-legacy-series.221691/
https://pinkfishmedia.net/forum/threads/tannoy-legacy-series.221691/
Disarmamant
Certified foo free
I listen predominantly to classical music, a lot of opera, and some 50’s / 60’s era Jazz. Zero rock or pop.
For me the Tannoy lacked the mid range realism of the Harbeth most significantly with voices. I also expected a better bass response with the large Tannoy drivers, but that did not happen, the Harbeths sounded better in the bass to me.
not too good at understanding that diagram but amazed if on paper they go deeper . very amazed . My son loves dubstep and music that has a `drop ` the harbeth were useless in this respect !!! the eatons can shake the floor and certainly to my ears , sound better at organ[/QUOTE]
Both look to have a fairly similar low frequency response, judging from the frequency test charts, but the Tannoys do have some bass lift at around 100-200Hz, whereas at that point the Harbs are rolling off gently. The Harbs do extend deeper. The Harbeth measures better across the frequency range - the Tannoys are up and down from about 1kHz onwards.
From the charts I would expect the Tannoys to sound ‘fuller’ in the bass, especially with organ music, perhaps because of the bass lift at around 100-200hz. A large pipe organ sounds remarkably bass-rich compared to what we’re used to with hi-fi. I use a sub with my speakers, which is a liability with rock, but very lifelike with organ. I can see where your organist friend is coming from.
Elephantears
Trunkated Aesthete
I've just realised that I've had my original Tannoy Eatons for two years now. That follows the year in which I couldn't really live with the SHL5Plus, the shorter time in which I enjoyed the Monitor 30.1 but wanted more bass, and the year in which I adored ESL63s, but was frustrated in equal measure. The Eatons have just been much easier to live with. This is partly because they are a medium sized speaker in my medium sized room (I don't subscribe to the only tiny or huge speakers work philosophy). But mainly because I was able to get bespoke crossovers. I couldn't have lived with the Eatons as they were originally voiced (very studio) just as I couldn't live with SHL5Plus (a little too distant for me, but also too big for my room). The speakers that most satisfied me in stock condition have been ESL63s, but you can't dance to them. Otherwise I would have taken Proac D30R over all of them, but as one dealer said to me, their bass response gives them a rather 'heroic' voicing. If Stuart Tyler has created a more even bass response with the D30RS, as he had said, then I would be wanting to hear those before I invested in SHL5Plus or Eaton Legacy.
Moppit
pfm Member
Both look to have a fairly similar low frequency response, judging from the frequency test charts, but the Tannoys do have some bass lift at around 100-200Hz, whereas at that point the Harbs are rolling off gently. The Harbs do extend deeper. The Harbeth measures better across the frequency range - the Tannoys are up and down from about 1kHz onwards.
From the charts I would expect the Tannoys to sound ‘fuller’ in the bass, especially with organ music, perhaps because of the bass lift at around 100-200hz. A large pipe organ sounds remarkably bass-rich compared to what we’re used to with hi-fi. I use a sub with my speakers, which is a liability with rock, but very lifelike with organ. I can see where your organist friend is coming from.[/QUOTE]
This is a good explanation of my experience with the two. In my room the Harbs had lower bass but the Tannoys were quite rock n roll, the bass hump no dpubt adding to this.
Hifinutt - the Harbs in your room looked way too close to the wall corner (but the picture perspective might be giving the wrong impression), the recommended position is at least 0.5m from the sides and 0.3m from the rear. The darker balance of my annies gives the impression of a fuller bass than the previous regular shl5+ i had on dem.
The Tannoys were slightly less fussy of position in my experience probably due to the heavier construction.
yuckyamson
pfm Member
Jump to the cheviots. Once stands are considered it's basically the same footprint and you'll just get better everything.
And fwiw I can't think of two more different sound signatures, harbs vs. Tannoy. For me it would be Tannoy all the way, even though they are assuredly less detailed, airy, and tonally honest. I'd just rather shtup jenna Jameson than Margaret thatcher.
And fwiw I can't think of two more different sound signatures, harbs vs. Tannoy. For me it would be Tannoy all the way, even though they are assuredly less detailed, airy, and tonally honest. I'd just rather shtup jenna Jameson than Margaret thatcher.
Interesting, the Harbeths look much flatter on the measurements.
I should have a listen to both, but perhaps getting cold feet for a Tannoy foray. Agreed the Cheviots might make more sense than the Eatons, I just fear they’ll be too ‘big’ sounding for a room with neighbours above!
I should have a listen to both, but perhaps getting cold feet for a Tannoy foray. Agreed the Cheviots might make more sense than the Eatons, I just fear they’ll be too ‘big’ sounding for a room with neighbours above!
The placement of the Harbeth Super HL5+ is far from ideal. They need considerable space from the front and side walls. The wooden speaker stands also would have affected the sound a little.Does anyone have any experience with the Tannoy Legacy range? Ideally the Eatons.
yes , replaced the harbeth shl5plus with tannoy eaton legacy . could not get on with the harbs which did not seem to do deep enough and becuase they were near walls did not get on well in my room. loved them in my loft room but ultimately too much for my lugholes
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– Are they picky about placement, and do they require a 'sweet spot' seating position?
the eatons can go near walls , they have incredible imaging . remarkable
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– What is the sound signature? Warm? Detailed? Natural? Lively?
this i find is very sweet and non fatiguing . you can of course adjust them to your room
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– What about stand heights? Can you get away with a low stand and not have the tweeter at ear height?
i have mine just about the same heigth as the shl5plus i.e 51 cms from the floor to base of speaker
– They seem to 'review' well in the blogs/ mags. What about any gripes? Anything they don't do well?
any gripes ..well i have to keep the grills on as they are hardly lookers !!!
– How do they compare to Harbeth? I currently have Harbeth P3ESR. How do they compare to these, and also SHL5+?
they go deeper than the shl5plus . had an organist here who is nuts about playing organs all over the place and he loved them . they may not have the same incredible midrange as the shl5plus but you can listen to them all day with no fatigue
the p3esr are remarkable and had these recently , i would say the eatons have the same sweet sound but just much BIGGER
Any thoughts much appreciated! Thanks
All in my experience.
I suppose the comments were made by folks who have not listened to the speakers. Just some fun chatter.
hifinutt
hifinutt
yes agreed , they love free space . the speakers were on isopucks on the stands and they make a huge difference
hifinutt
hifinutt
the cheviots really are a big leap in size . the eatons are the same size as the shl5plus and would be worth trying first . bigger is not always better
yuckyamson
pfm Member
The cheviots are much more volume, yes, but the footprint is roughly the same.
The cheviots are much better as well. And not much more money.
The cheviots are much better as well. And not much more money.
hifinutt
hifinutt
yes the eaton is about 15 " wide and the cheviot about 17" approx . not much in it . and not a lot of difference in price . they do weigh a fair bit more though 20kg for the eaton and 29kg for the cheviot . I did look at the cheviot but couldnt fit them in. The eatons sound pretty damm good . especially with drums and vocals . I would agree with disarmanent on the midrange , i thing the shl5plus is incredible in the midrange , open and airy and spacious . but i just find them a bit toppy and as mentioned i feel they don`t have the bass i want . The eatons s don`t make my ear ache and you can really turn them up if you want ! And you can tune them to your likes with the adjustments at the bottom . When i had martin logan summit x i really liked that as you could tune to your ears as well . We are all so different , especially with speakers .
Fatmarley
"It appears my intelligence circuits have melted"
Someone should start a video thread. I know it doesn't show you how a system sounds but it's still interesting.