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Steve Bray's 'protest' equipment seized on first day of new law

Discussion in 'off topic' started by notaclue, Jun 28, 2022.

  1. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

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  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    He has an absolute right to protest. These new Tory laws are those of an out of control far-right government silencing dissent with state violence. No one should respect them. We should all very actively resist them. Hopefully there will be a crowdfunder for Bray’s defence.

    PS Here are some petitions organised by Greenpeace and Liberty standing against this authoritarian Tory policy. pfm very actively supports organisations such as these and other entities such as the Good Law Project, Led By Donkeys, StopFundingHate etc. Please consider signing the petitions and donating to these organisations as they all do fine and increasingly important work.

    pfm is an anti-fascist website.
     
  3. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    He's a hero. Anyone who opposes him is a total cnut. Simples
     
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  4. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    He’s a dick but this authoritarian law must be resisted so he has my full support in this respect.

    Protests (and strikes) are meant to be annoying and disruptive. Without the right to cause trouble, we have nothing.
     
  5. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

    He can go and be a hero in your back garden.

    It's not the act of protesting that's the trouble, it's the constant and I imagine unreasonable noise. Every day. He can do a quiet protest and I'm sure nobody would trouble him.
     
  6. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    See my first post
     
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  7. laughingboy

    laughingboy pfm Member

    The odd thing about today's actions by the police is that they could have confiscated his amplifier at any time since the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Act 2011, whose provisions were extended by the Anti-Social Behaviour Crime and Policing Act 2014 (see House of Commons Library). The fact that the police have obviously been instructed to do so today, the day the new anti-protest laws have come into effect, is all about headlines.

    It's the usual 'culture war' stuff from a low, divisive government that has nothing constructive to offer the country.
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2022
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  8. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    I wouldn't even call them a government. They'd have to actually govern to do that. It's basically Boris Johnson, Crime Minister, and his droogs.
     
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  9. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    On the orders of Priti Vacant no doubt.
     
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  10. narabdela

    narabdela who?


    Your trust is misplaced. :rolleyes:
     
  11. CraShWilliams

    CraShWilliams pfm Member

    They did the same with Brian Haw (RIP) and he always managed to find a loophole.

    Like many others, I fully support his right (and ours) to protest - the Government is tearing up all of our hard won rights and this needs to be fully fought against.
     
  12. Nero

    Nero Don’t call me Bud

    Legislation is already in place for antisocial noise nuisance. This was about stifling protest, and is all part of this country’s slide into fascism. Something will snap soon, and it won’t be pretty
     
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  13. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

    He's a nightmare. You can tell. Dunno how you would reason with him https://twitter.com/snb19692/status/1541709565561028610

    The fact they had to pretty much introduce legislation to stop him tells its own story.

    He was quite funny for the first few years, but became a tiresome nuisance.
     
  14. notaclue

    notaclue pfm Member

    He could even have kept the amp. And still used it. If he only looked at the map they were trying to show him so he knew where to go...

    PS They didn't confiscate the megaphone. Probably not loud enough.
     
  15. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

    If the confiscation of his amps and a fine is all that happens, he can crowdfund his way out of it.

    If he's that earnest in his protest, he'll reflect that, through history, others have lost more than some electronics for a similar cause.
     
  16. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    It doesn’t matter. You don’t need to like him. He’s not racist, sexist, homophobic, he isn’t inciting hatred, he’s not violent or destructive. Just some bloke protesting about something. If you stand by whilst the state attacks, manhandles, charges and silences him it will not be long until they come for climate activists, the anti racists, for protests against state brutality, for strikers, for LGBTQ+ folk, for the Roma, even for the political opposition or independent press. They will eventually come for anyone an all-powerful right-wing state does not like.

    Even the most staunch Brexiter should stand by Bray as his political stance is, by far, the least important thing in this story.
     
  17. glenda

    glenda pfm Member

    He is currently being followed around constantly by two gormless policemen. If they are trying to put the frighteners on him, it's not working.
     
  18. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Me too, I ate one sour too.

    Given that they're now officially the private security firm protecting the very rich and their interests, I think he should give the pig a good, firm kick in the nuts. If he wants to crowdfund his defence, I'll gladly contribute.
     
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  19. Jimin

    Jimin pfm Member

    Have you thought about creating a sticky thread for such petitions? Or does one already exist? I'd be delighted to visit it regularly.
     
  20. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Me too, I ate one sour too.

    He's in parliament square. I doubt he can be heard from more than 3 meters away over the traffic.
     

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