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Rugby Six Nations 2023

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Whaleblue, Feb 5, 2023.

  1. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    England awful but France have been great.
     
  2. hifilover1979

    hifilover1979 Bigger than you...

    England's lungs aren't good enough at all. Legs failed 30mins ago and France have picked them apart
     
  3. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Don't think I've seen England demolished like this at Twickenham.
     
  4. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Wait until they play (well, attempt to play) Ireland at home…
     
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  5. Ellenor

    Ellenor pfm Member

    The forwards weren’t exactly helping him though. His mate Alex looks totally knackered.
     
  6. DuncanF

    DuncanF pfm Member

    I said to a mate at half time that when the coverage of the 2nd half starts it should come with a warning: the following program may contain scenes that some viewers will find distresing. Viewer caution is advised.

    What a shambles. Smith didn't have a chance behind a pack that were being slaughtered. Van Poortvliet has been watching too many "best(??) of Ben Youngs" videos and now spends his time at rucks flapping his arms like a seagull. And generally, the lack of fitness and pace reminds me of my playing days.

    On the upside, Mitchell coming on injected pace and we scored. A scrum half who knows what he is going to do before he gets to the ruck. Unfortunately, having two minutes of decent play in an entire match will not get you far.
     
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  7. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    new scrum coach imminent I read, but not in time for this misery. and only the world number 1 team to come. Hoorah!
     
  8. PsB

    PsB Citizen of Nowhere™

    The thing I find unbelievable is that many pundits in the English press were predicting - with their usual self-confidence - that England had a good chance of beating France. Opinions varied by how much, but there was something of a consensus that England still had a chance of winning the 6N is they could just "release the handbrake". It was clear to any neutral that England are one level down from Ireland and France these days, and that the idea that England could win the 6N this year is just bonkers. Confirmation yesterday.

    This isn't just the tabloid press. The so-called quality press do it all the time, too. Take an average team, hype it to the rafters, predict inevitable victory. When things go wrong, as they have been for a while now, focus on a couple of short term miracle solutions, usually around individual A or B: just change the coach or No.10 and all will be fine.

    The absolute thrashing of England at Twickenham last night could go some way to showing it isn't about a few individual failures, and that fundamental change of the whole system is required to raise the level to world class. Is the RFU even capable of that?

    The English press do this with every sport. It happens in every country, but they take it to the nth degree. Now busy hyping Murray and Raducanu in Indian Wells. What is this neediness?
     
  9. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Just got back from lunch. Could be an interesting 2nd half!
     
  10. dan m

    dan m pfm Member

    Really great play by both teams. Let’s hope the second half is as good.
     
  11. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    The best side is pulling away now. England are going to get slayed again next week.
     
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  12. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    England do have a good record at Twickenham, I thought it would be a close game. We needed to play a tighter more pragmatic game; it’s generally how England win games.
     
  13. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    That was back in the good old day. Hope it rains, stuff the ball up the forwards shirts and plod around in the mud until someone falls over the try line lol.
    That approach now means we come 5 out of 6.
    Scotland today pushed ireland very very hard for 80 mins.
    Let's see what the England team can do with an attack of that speed and ferocity next week.
    I'll close my eyes for most of it.
     
  14. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    By the time the England game comes, I won’t care (probably just as well). All day in the pub with mates on Saturday watching all 3 games. Going to be hard work after Cheltenham this week.
     
  15. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member

    We're fatter than the French.
     
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  16. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member

    And not just sport - see Brexit.
     
  17. Rockmeister

    Rockmeister pfm Member

    Where do we think the world rankings will be at the start of the world cup? Who has a realistic shout? I'm out of touch with what's occurin in the southern hemisphere at the mo.
    on the form I've seen I'd put France at the top IF Dupont is fit and firing.
     
  18. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member

    On current form, France and Ireland are favorites. South Africa and NZ are close seconds.
     
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  19. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Yes, let’s hope the northern hemisphere perform.
     
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  20. alanbeeb

    alanbeeb pfm Member

    Sorry Italy.
    For a few moments it looked like it was too nice a day for Scottish Rugby.
     

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