Advertisement



  1. Things you need to know about the new ‘Conversations’ PM system:

    a) DO NOT REPLY TO THE NOTIFICATION EMAIL! I get them, not the intended recipient. I get a lot of them and I do not want them! It is just a notification, log into the site and reply from there.

    b) To delete old conversations use the ‘Leave conversation’ option. This is just delete by another name.
    Dismiss Notice

Rich guys and reviewers running amok

Discussion in 'trade discussion' started by Purité Audio, Jul 6, 2021.

  1. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

  2. Stuart Frazer

    Stuart Frazer pfm Member

    I think there is allot of truth in that article. Many audiophiles willy wave components in terms of their wallet worth and not their actual sound quality or value. Audiophile companies and dealers are more than happy to relieve them of such wasteful excess.
     
  3. Aural

    Aural Chris the Full Range fan

    Just playing my 'Stereo Coffee' pre-amp into Neurochrome 86 amp. Both hand made, and 'worth' many times the cost in quality.
     
  4. TheFlash

    TheFlash Superhero of Sound

    It's definitely not a hifi-only thing. Which isn't to excuse it!

    There are parallels with sectors like automotive where everyone involved - manufacturer, advertising agency, media and social media company, retailer (often tied to former), reviewer and, yes, customer all conspire with each other to encourage upselling - those fancy wheels, BMW's "concierge" service (who ever actually used that?), etc. Other sectors are available. Like watches. Or bikes (the ones with pedals), apparently.

    Still, at least cars, bikes, watches and hifi do something. The whole exclusivity/willy-waving thing is taken to extremes in jewellery and medium-high fashion where it's all about being seen to wear something... and not about wearing clothes for warmth or dignity.

    In all the above, "pride of ownership" is probably the driving force of many transactions. It's the consumer society/capitalist economy in which we live. Its lifeblood is growth, and growth means making people dissatisfied with what they were delighted to buy only N years ago (built-in obsolescence). That social/economic force can drive fabulous creativity in technology and in design, but it can also drive vacuous marketing, huge waste and in some circumstances cynical exploitation.

    In hifi, sometimes (more often than not) I tut at it; sometimes I think I might as well join in and take a slice of it; and sometimes I join the party as a willing consumer. Funny old world.
     
    G T Audio, Robby, Durmbo and 2 others like this.
  5. Bart

    Bart pfm Member

    I suspect many of the people who have enough money to buy really expensive kit have ears too old to hear the alleged benefits. Fortunately I’ve always been happy with components costing a few hundred pounds each.
     
    Arkless Electronics likes this.
  6. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    People buy pre-built hifi, who knew?
     
  7. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    The same has always struck me about high performance cars.... when many are old enough to afford them they are well out of the "boy racer" stage and no longer have the will, the ability or the reactions to use the performance!
     
  8. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Some of us are still hanging in there! :) Although these days I am more interested in my 5K and 10K times...
     
  9. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    As has been already said above, there is a lot of truth in that article. One factor not mentioned is that due to the enormous lack of knowledge and expertise in audio and audio design, especially in the far east (with the exception of Japan) the only indicator of performance is the price. Therefore many go for the high ticket items expecting them to be the best. This, as well as the bragging rights which are also very prevalent and important in Asia.

    BTW Keith, do you still have your £140,000 Cessaro Liszt's?
     
    flutteringwow likes this.
  10. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Oooooof. Ref, low blow....
     
  11. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    An example from the pro audio industry. This Behringer console sells for $2499:

    [​IMG]

    It is identical to this Midas console that sells for $3699:

    [​IMG]

    Only the nameplate and the styling are different, both come from the same manufacturer with the same guts, but one has a bargain basement brand name and the other has a prestige name.
     
  12. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    Is behringer more reliable these days? It used to be unusable.
     
  13. G T Audio

    G T Audio Trade: Manufacturer and Distributor

    Neither has a prestige name as far as I am concerned...
     
  14. chartz

    chartz If it’s broke fix it!

    Studer or Neve they are not.
     
    G T Audio likes this.

Share This Page





Advertisement


  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice