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rega dac, cdq, young dac bake off

Discussion in 'audio' started by bottleneck, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. ItemAudio

    ItemAudio Trade: Item Audio

    Elliptical. Mysterious. Gnomic, even . . . care to elaborate?
     
  2. anubisgrau

    anubisgrau pfm Member

    that happened after the bake-off. you announced 300b amps there.
     
  3. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    The best analogue pots outperform 'all' digital solutions, particularly at low listening levels. I've yet to see any proof that cheap anything works well in audio, the best digital volume solutions come in the best equipment, and that's usually the most expensive.

    Quite how you'd extract the cost of the digital volume implementation from the Weiss 202 I'm not sure, but it wouldn't be cheap would it. Likewise the volume control from the Benchmark, the better HDR unit cost several hundred more than the previous model it replaced.

    It's nice that you have a low cost product to sell, but claiming it does it better than analogue simply isn't true.
     
  4. bottleneck

    bottleneck pfm Member


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  5. Paul R

    Paul R pfm Member

    He doesn't disagree with me.

    Paul
     
  6. anubisgrau

    anubisgrau pfm Member

    you find 6moons a relliable source? god knows what he really said or at least wanted to say....
     
  7. reverendo

    reverendo pfm Member

    Had to laugh at reading this. He writes well, but you can't get much more enigmatic than 6moons. :D
     
  8. anubisgrau

    anubisgrau pfm Member

    yeah, he's obviously influenced by paulo coelho. they even look similar!
     
  9. reverendo

    reverendo pfm Member

    he writes much better than Paulo Coelho... Paulo Coelho is a disgrace to portuguese literature. ;)
     
  10. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    When he is quoting someone else, yes. Otherwise he's a clueless F-wit.
     
  11. ItemAudio

    ItemAudio Trade: Item Audio

    There you go with the paranoia again . . . I'm not talking about/selling the Emotiva, and haven't claimed 'it' is 'better than analog'. I've been generalising about digital volume control.

    Yes, your position is defensible re: analog attenuation, but it's an Ivory Tower argument: the ultimate VC may be analog (although some smart folks disagree), but a cheap analog pot sounds worse than a cheap digital attenuation. Digital attenuation is very good value, as I said before, when I said 'digital attenuation is good value'.

    Whether Weiss' or Prism's implemenation of a digital VC is really inferior to a well-made analog attenuator, you'd have to take up with them. I suspect it all becomes a bit esoteric and moot.

    The common sense bottom line is that you need a hell of a preamp to better the transparency of a DAC with digital VC direct to power amp. QED.
     
  12. ItemAudio

    ItemAudio Trade: Item Audio

    gnomic (comparative more gnomic, superlative most gnomic)
    1. Of, or relating to gnomes.
    2. (of a saying or aphorism) Mysterious and often incomprehensible yet seemingly wise. He always makes gnomic remarks/utterances.

    Translations
    • Spanish: enigmático es(es)
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  13. bottleneck

    bottleneck pfm Member

    ...I am DEFINATELY "1".... rarely "2".....
     
  14. ItemAudio

    ItemAudio Trade: Item Audio

    But which solid state? What solid state?
     
  15. Cereal Killer

    Cereal Killer 432 Point5

    I've been discussing volume control and input gain settings with lavry tech support, think the guy who deals with it from there end is called Brad. After many emails and good healthy discussions I've learnt the volume control on my DA11 is pretty much lossless after '08' out of the '56' db steps allowed. I turned the gain down on my Deltas to allow '05' to be low enough for late night sessions.

    IMHO, Lavry have done a cracking job with its analog controlled digital VC.
     
  16. anubisgrau

    anubisgrau pfm Member

    ah, maybe, but not more than ricardo carvalho to portuguese football.... or srajan abean to audio journalism....:cool:
     
  17. reverendo

    reverendo pfm Member

    touché... :D but I'm brazilian and so is Paulo Coelho ;)
     
  18. anubisgrau

    anubisgrau pfm Member

    and Pepe as well :D.
     
  19. reverendo

    reverendo pfm Member

    c'mon, Anubis... Pepe is as portuguese as he could be... I'm sad enough to call Paulo my landsman, but Pepe would be too much... we already have Felipe Melo, which is more than enough... ;)
    sorry for the OT... :D
     

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