Rockmeister
pfm Member
Busy cleaning, cataloging, grading etc my collection. I'm a bit confused on a few fronts and looking for advice.
First, I am using Tony's list in the PFM record shop re record and sleeve condition, (and Discogs list is near identical), but am amazed to note that for sale on Discogs are literally hundreds of 60's and 70's LPs listed as 'Mint'; or 'Near Mint'. Now ok, the Vinyl might be if never played, but who owns a piece of cardboard that is now 60 years old and not discoloured or creased???? I even dug out two albums from 1970 that were still in their 'shrink wrap'; and even they had slight discolouration at the edges.
So question one, are these descriptions supposed to be read in light of the age of the recording? ie, OFC it's 60 years old, so will be discoloured but 'for it's age' it's perfect as you'll find?
Or are there lots of charlatans around
My typical 'student played a lot records from the 60's / 70's' will be VG+ Vinyl and G or VG for the sleeve. And I was quite caring I thought hahaha.
Second point concerns value. Obvs a direct link to the 3 Discogs valuations (low/median/high) to condition, but is it possible to suggest how record descriptors match those three valuation levels? I was assuming that bad/poor would be below 'low' price, fair and good = low, vg and exc, somewhere about median and only Mint reaching the 'high' valuation, which itself must be affected by rarity and competition to buy. Is this right?
I'd quite like to post some pics at some point to illustrate this discussion if that would be useful?
Ta.
First, I am using Tony's list in the PFM record shop re record and sleeve condition, (and Discogs list is near identical), but am amazed to note that for sale on Discogs are literally hundreds of 60's and 70's LPs listed as 'Mint'; or 'Near Mint'. Now ok, the Vinyl might be if never played, but who owns a piece of cardboard that is now 60 years old and not discoloured or creased???? I even dug out two albums from 1970 that were still in their 'shrink wrap'; and even they had slight discolouration at the edges.
So question one, are these descriptions supposed to be read in light of the age of the recording? ie, OFC it's 60 years old, so will be discoloured but 'for it's age' it's perfect as you'll find?
Or are there lots of charlatans around
My typical 'student played a lot records from the 60's / 70's' will be VG+ Vinyl and G or VG for the sleeve. And I was quite caring I thought hahaha.
Second point concerns value. Obvs a direct link to the 3 Discogs valuations (low/median/high) to condition, but is it possible to suggest how record descriptors match those three valuation levels? I was assuming that bad/poor would be below 'low' price, fair and good = low, vg and exc, somewhere about median and only Mint reaching the 'high' valuation, which itself must be affected by rarity and competition to buy. Is this right?
I'd quite like to post some pics at some point to illustrate this discussion if that would be useful?
Ta.
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