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Post-Trump: III (decline, further tantrums, legal proceedings, book deals etc)

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Yank, May 19, 2021.

  1. tones

    tones Tones deaf

    This interesting opinion piece in today's NYT gives an overview of the fate in store for the USA under a Trump Administration:

    The link to Christianity Today in the article is also worth a read.

    More and more outlets are waking up to the danger of Christian nationalism, the idea that the USA is a "Christian nation" (which, by definition is impossible) and that its cherry-picked view of what exactly constitutes Christianity will be imposed on the country as a whole. Remember that Trump's most enthusiastic supporters are "evangelicals". Already we're seeing religious views imposed on parts of the country - the abortion bans are a purely religious phenomenon (essentially a Catholic doctrine, only relatively recently adopted by "evangelicals" as a wedge issue to get the faithful suitably riled). And we're seeing the dumbing-down of Florida, as Ron DeSanctimonius (something that Trump actually got right) interferes in libraries and places of education, telling them what they can and cannot teach. Indeed, the Florida actions could be see as seeking to fulfil the Seven Mountain Mandate of the Dominionist Movement - a "Christian" takeover of the "seven mountains" of society - family, religion, education, media, entertainment, business, and government.

    Gilead may not be that far away...
  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    NAACP issue travel advisory warning for Florida due to the batshit crazy far-right legislation from DeSantis
  3. tones

    tones Tones deaf

    Perhaps we could have a new version of the Horst Wessel Lied for Ron:

    Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
    Republikaner, marsch mit festem Schritt.
    Kam'raden, Farbige, LTBQ, ausrotten,
    Machen Staatsweit eine Reinigung mit.
    Last edited: May 22, 2023
  4. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    It seems, from the NAACP website that the NAACP assumes everybody knows what NAACP stands for. It's clear enough that it's a civil liberties/black minority rights thing, but as far as I can tell, nowhere on the website does it spell out what NAACP is an acronym for, nor does it ever refer to itself as anything other than 'NAACP'. So it's hard to tell whether it's a government-sponsored regulatory thing, a civil liberties organisation, or what. Maybe if you don't know, you don't need to know.
  5. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    Historically, "National Association for the Advancement of Colored People." Long established civil rights advocacy NGO, quite successful in the courts sometimes. There's a lot of history to catch up on with them if you want to persue. They don't expand NAACP much these days because "colored people" is not so acceptable in modern usage.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr likes this.
  6. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

    Yet "people of colour" is (I think).

    It's a funny old thing, this language game.
  7. zarniwoop

    zarniwoop hoopy frood

    E. Jean Carroll Seeks New Damages From Trump for Comments on CNN

    From the New York Times

    Poor Donald…
    Enfield boy, Darmok and ff1d1l like this.
  8. Darmok

    Darmok "In Lation, Trans Lost."

    E Jean Carroll files for new damages after Trump’s CNN town hall remarks

    Author’s court filing comes after the ex-president demeaned her a day after being found liable for sexual abuse

    Poor drumpf, 5million $s poorer so far, perhaps another 5mil $s will shut his huge GOP GOB.
    Garrard 401 and ff1d1l like this.
  9. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    Seems to me the whole point of the debt ceiling standoff is that the GOP think that a 9-man majority in the House of Representatives entitles them to undo the past three and a half years of Democratic legislation. This is either so blindingly obvious that no one else is saying it, or it's not nearly as profound as I like to think.
    sean99 likes this.
  10. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    I am not at all sure their mental process is best described as 'thinking.' Too much under influence of spite and malice.
  11. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    Could someone explain the meaning of the ‘dark Brandon’ stuff I keep hearing about?
  12. matthewr

    matthewr spɹɐʍʞɔɐq spɹoɔǝɹ ɹnoʎ sʎɐld

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  13. gustav_errata

    gustav_errata pfm Member

    I, for one, an annoyed that my long-out-of-fashion first name has been co-opted for political euphemisms. I used to enjoy hearing "Let's go, Brandon!" (except in cases of tardiness).
  14. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    It was never meant to reach right to the bottom. The serfs were slaves and if they were lucky weren't killed.
  15. gordon

    gordon self-righteous, but never right

    Since 1980, when the Republicans are in control, net spending (spending - tax revenue) goes up. When the Democrats are in control, spending is flat or rises slightly. As Mitch McConnell said, "a president has never lost reelection by spending too much." In other words, spending makes presidents popular, and austerity makes them unpopular. The debt ceil ploy by Republicans is a purely political move: to either tank the economy, or get Biden to agree to spending cuts. Either way, Biden's popularity takes a hit. So yes, blindingly obvious, and not profound.

    The Democrats are there own worst enemy. They could've dealt with this durning the lame duck session after the 2022 elections while they were still in the majority.
    sean99 likes this.
  16. ks.234

    ks.234 Half way to Infinity

    Depends what you by “it”. The patronage and protection certainly was meant to reach to the bottom, whether it did or not is another matter. So no, serfs were not slaves, serfs had certain rights. Of course, those rights were never easy to enact against one’s social superior, but feudalism was a system of duties and obligations between the three estates of nobility, clergy and peasantry. In the early days of feudalism there were itinerant courts that toured the country to collect taxes, dispense justice and to hear disputes. There was one (ISTR) case where a woman appealed direct to the King about against her lord who raped her, and she won.
  17. CarrotMan

    CarrotMan pfm Member

    Exactly. At least the impression you get is that back then people also to some extent understood and respected that with class/status/entitlement came certain responsibilities and obligations. How that worked (through religious fear, threat of violence/excommunication etc.) is obviously important, but it is actually less important than the fact that it did work. The model implodes when certain factions of society no longer respects that they have to provide something in return for their privileges.

    Our model of society today may have changed some things on the surface, but underneath is probably more similar than we would like. IMO we don't have enough checks and balances in place to withstand someone directly assaulting the basic model head-on, as evidenced by the lack of respect for convention displayed by Trump, Johnson, Bannon and similar people. The irony is of course that these people exploit democracy to undermine democracy...
    sean99 likes this.
  18. NeilR

    NeilR pfm Member

    So DeSantis to launch his bid alongside Elon Musk. Not sure whether that is an advantage or a disadvantage!
  19. SteveS1

    SteveS1 I heard that, pardon?

    Sounds like the initial ingredients required for c soup.
    martin clark and ErikL like this.
  20. DonQuixote99

    DonQuixote99 pfm Member

    I imagine c standing for something other than 'chicken.'

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