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Post-Trump: Biden President Elect II (Trump tantrums, riots etc)

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A bit long winded but interesting, the nub of it being that DoJ phone warrants for Jan 6th are getting very adjacent to Hawley, Stone and you know who.

 
But the appalling thing is the grip he still has on the party - just look at the treatment Liz Cheney is getting for daring to say that the election wasn't rigged and that Trump fans instigated the Jan 6 Capitol storming.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/05/us/joe-biden-news

Fealty to Trump and Trumpism and denial of the truth have become the litmus test for the Republican Party - even Mike Pence, the alleged "Christian first", in whom, you will remember, Trump was very disappointed (and whom the mob wanted to string up) is saying nice things about him:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/29/us/politics/pence-speech-biden-trump.html?searchResultPosition=1

The US has entered a post-truth society and it will end badly.
 
Johnson is doing the same with the Tories, surround himself with sycophants who owe their electoral prospects to him. Any behaviours are then tolerated for fear of losing 'his' supporters.
 
Johnson is doing the same with the Tories, surround himself with sycophants who owe their electoral prospects to him. Any behaviours are then tolerated for fear of losing 'his' supporters.

The direction of travel of the GOP and the Tories is currently the same. The GOP are a short distance ahead of the Tories, but I don't think that should be of much comfort to the citizens of the UK.
 
The direction of travel of the GOP and the Tories is currently the same. The GOP are a short distance ahead of the Tories, but I don't think that should be of much comfort to the citizens of the UK.

At least the UK doesn't have to worry about the Religious Right.
 
Absolute prat. His attitude during the pandemic will not age well.
His latest, somewhat personal, attack on NHS staff will surely lose him most of the minimal support his mayoral campaign has accumulated. If he’s trying to be the anti establishment contrarian, he’s chosen the wrong target.
 
At least the UK doesn't have to worry about the Religious Right.

Imagine if we did. And they were armed to the teeth.

You do..and they are..

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Can you remind me of the difference ? ;)

In America, religion in politics means they actually want to enforce their religious ideas upon everyone through legislation. Take the recent state legislative efforts to end abortion and lgbt rights...

Tribalism - lets take Catholics against Protestants in N. Ireland - is the dispute about dogma, or is it really about who the people are?
 
Fair question Yank.

The DUP promote themselves as overtly 'God fearing' and extremely vociferous on anti-abortion, anti same sex-marriage themes. They recently deposed their leader Arlene Foster after she abstained from a vote on a DUP motion promoting gay conversion therapy. They are currently in the midst of a leadership battle where one of the main contenders is Edwin Poots, an ardent Creationist.

From the Guardian, on Foster's departure:

During Foster’s tenure, the DUP lost its ability to single handedly blockany legislative measure it didn’t agree with, as it had been able to do with the petition of concern mechanism. The DUP had wielded this veto over everything from reform of local government to the decriminalisation of abortion, and had used it to block every single manoeuvre to legislate for marriage equality in Northern Ireland.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/29/did-homophobia-lead-to-arlene-fosters-downfall

I'd say it's a very large measure of both.
 
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