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Poll: will you take the NHS Covid vaccine if offered it?

Will you take the vaccine if offered to you by the NHS?

  • Yes

    Votes: 176 83.0%
  • No

    Votes: 36 17.0%

  • Total voters
    212
There are bad reactions to vaccines. Vaccines undoubtedly do some harm. The question is whether they do more or less harm than the diseases they guard against. It would have to be a pretty terrible vaccine to cause more harm than COVID.
 
Sean,

Definitely. Whenever I've had a flu shot I've been instructed to sit in a waiting room for 20 minutes to make sure I wasn't going to have a serious anaphylactic reaction on the way home. Is this practice common in the UK and US, too?

If someone is in this group — dangerously allergic to something in the vaccine — definitely pass, but for everyone else the risks far outweigh the benefits.

Joe
 
Jez,

I see the parallel, but a bit of audio foo usually means some middle-aged bloke overspent on wire. Medical foo can be fatal, and it has spill-over effects on the general population.

Joe

The point is taken, but users of ‘foo’ (your term) do not endanger the lives and health of their loved ones and fellow citizens. I’d be as rude about climate change deniers and antivaxxers as you are about audiophiles who use boutique cables and supports. The difference is, in the case of audio, nobody dies.

Now come on guys, that's hardly the point! Further, exactly the same electronic principles apply to such things as the avionics that stop your plane going into a mountain and to the ECG machine that saves lives;) They are also applied to disproving 5G nonsense!

Back to the topic anyhow:)
 
Sean,

Definitely. Whenever I've had a flu shot I've been instructed to sit in a waiting room for 20 minutes to make sure I wasn't going to have a serious anaphylactic reaction on the way home. Is this practice common in the UK and US, too?

If someone is in this group — dangerously allergic to something in the vaccine — definitely pass, but for everyone else the risks far outweigh the benefits.

Joe
I’m in Scotland and we get the jag at the local GP surgery, not been told to hang around after just head straight home. Wife gets too as a precaution, less of a chance she gives it to me as I have underlying health conditions as they put it. This year I think the local school or community centre will be used to administer the flu vaccine rather than seeing the nurse at the local GP.
 
Jez,

I see the buyer of audio nonsense as equivalent to someone who's superstitious, like people who throw salt over their shoulder to ward off evil spirits or to prevent bad luck. Kinda nutty, but so what? (Obviously, this isn't being superstitious if Nancy, the salt monster, is nearby. Throwing salt over their shoulder could be a life-saving move!)

Contrast salt-over-the-shoulder peeps with peeps who use homeopathic medicines to cure cancer or whatever.

Joe
 
Jez,

I see the buyer of audio nonsense as equivalent to someone who's superstitious, like people who throw salt over their shoulder to ward off evil spirits or to prevent bad luck. Kinda nutty, but so what? (Obviously, this isn't being superstitious if Nancy, the salt monster, is nearby. Throwing salt over their shoulder could be a life-saving move!)

Contrast salt-over-the-shoulder peeps with peeps who use homeopathic medicines to cure cancer or whatever.

Joe
And then there's Mr van den Hul who sells both audio foo and a magical health bracelet.
 
I’m in Scotland and we get the jag at the local GP surgery, not been told to hang around after just head straight home. Wife gets too as a precaution, less of a chance she gives it to me as I have underlying health conditions as they put it. This year I think the local school or community centre will be used to administer the flu vaccine rather than seeing the nurse at the local GP.
They are going to let old, vulnerable people into schools!!
 
Best wishes for your long-term recovery too Sean.

I've just noticed that if you grew a beard and put on some glasses you'd look like my avatar.

If he looks like his Avatar at 46 then he has more to worry about than Covid.

I've had a hard life. That's actually my 6th form picture.

Cheers zarniwoop. I think I'm finally on the mend, as it happens. I said I'd fill @cubastreet in on my clinical experiences as I know they're not able to access treatment, might be helpful to others in the same situation. For a month or so I've felt that the inflammation in my lungs had gone, but I was still having some breathing difficulty as well as some other odd symptoms, such as blurred vision and numb finger tips. After meeting with a respiratory physiotherapist it seems this can all be put down to hyperventilation syndrome (and maybe some GI symptoms too): my breathing pattern had adapted to shortness of breath and now it's causing shortness of breath, with knock-on effects, and has to be re-trained. I found this reassuring - my thoughts had been straying towards amputation. Might be worth looking into to see if this accounts for some of your remaining symptoms.
 
They are going to let old, vulnerable people into schools!!
Not 100% sure, I got an email from my GP to say flu jags likely be at school/community venue run by NHS G but not decided yet. I am seeing the GP tomorrow to get bloods drawn and asked if I could get the flu jab same time, but it’s not available yet. I will hopefully find out what the plan is tomorrow or more info. Obvs I am not that keen on visiting a school type venue.
 
Mandatory flu jabs for all school and college age kids here in Massachusetts this year. Waiting to see if the state will coordinate and administer the jabs or whether that will be left to "the market" - e.g. everyone individually calling around their pediatrician office / pharmacy trying to locate a shot, all individually billable to health insurance for anywhere between $50 and $300. My guess is that it will be a free-for-all and there will be parents unable to find a place to do the shot and so having their kids excluded from school. I hope I'm wrong and they offer the shots in school (even though that would be SOCIALISM !!!!)
 
Jez,

I see the buyer of audio nonsense as equivalent to someone who's superstitious, like people who throw salt over their shoulder to ward off evil spirits or to prevent bad luck. Kinda nutty, but so what? (Obviously, this isn't being superstitious if Nancy, the salt monster, is nearby. Throwing salt over their shoulder could be a life-saving move!)

Contrast salt-over-the-shoulder peeps with peeps who use homeopathic medicines to cure cancer or whatever.

Joe

Joe,

As a mod here you're hardly likely to blurt out a road to Damascus conversion in the opinions you post here on the matter... I would though ask you not to insult my intelligence in asking me to believe that a fellow of your intelligence cannot see the principle of professional opinion based on decades of experience, in any area of expertise, being given equal respect. If someone who admitted "I know nothing about biology or zoology... BUT" then claimed that gorillas are descended from wasps (yeah yeah if we go back far enough to the primeval swamp...) and after you carefully explained the facts to the guy he opined that we don't need experts and you obviously don't know what you're talking about you may well be fully justified in considering him a "David Icke grade dickhead" whether or not his opinion could adversely affect anyone's health!
Curing cancer? There are these things called CAT scanners, MRI scanners and radiation therapy machines which last time I checked were electronic and work on the same basic electronic principles as hi fi equipment... but you're an intelligent man, and although it suited your argument to ignore it, you of course knew that already... :)
 
Flu jab every year, already booked in for 2nd October at Boots (I guess that this year I qualify for it free on the NHS, given the age range coming down to 50 but just as easy to pay £12 or whatever for it).
Covid jab whenever it becomes available. I'm happy to take the place of anyone in the queue who needs it more than I do but doesn't have the bollocks / has been brainwashed / whatever.
 
Jez,

I think you misunderstood my post and, for what it's worth, I hold engineers and scientists in very high regard.

People who throw salt over their shoulder to me are like people who buy, say, expensive wire — i.e., I don't get it and I don't do it, but the implications of their actions aren't really important. However, a person who chooses homeopathic remedies to medical treatment could be making a grave mistake.

If you search through my posts over the years on wire, you'd find one where I mentioned that a new $750k Zeiss confocal microscope that was recently installed in the department comes with a rather nondescript power cord. And although Zeiss offers no end of items and add-ons you can buy to increase the capabilities of the microscope, not one of them is a cable upgrade. I'm definitely in the wire-that-came-in-the-box-is-just-fine camp.

Joe
 
The point is taken, but users of ‘foo’ (your term) do not endanger the lives and health of their loved ones and fellow citizens. I’d be as rude about climate change deniers and antivaxxers as you are about audiophiles who use boutique cables and supports. The difference is, in the case of audio, nobody dies.

I dunno, drop a speaker with a spike on your foot and you could get a nasty flesh wound, which, if untreated, could have fatal consequences.
 
Jez,

I see the parallel, but a bit of audio foo usually means some middle-aged bloke overspent on wire. Medical foo can be fatal, and it has spill-over effects on the general population.

Joe

What about the opportunity cost of wire overspend?, that money could be used to plant some trees to offset global warming or save an orangutan. Every time you indulge wire overspend a baby orangutan dies, join us on our mission to save these poor defenceless creatures by condemning cable porn.
 


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