John Channing
fruit box forever
The Drop/Sennheiser HD6xx would be my choice and and is also what I use.
Do the higher-end Grados have full size earcups or do they sit on the ear? I had some of their entry level 'phones years ago and would frankly rather clamp cheese-graters to my ears than go back to them!
Not quite!Is this you ???
Perhaps my ears are just oddly shaped, but I've never understood the appeal of on-ear headphones from a bass performance perspective. IME good low frequency performance from headphones relies on the ear cup housing making a good air seal around your pinnae, something an on-ear design is surely unable to achieve? This is why I'd choose circumaural headphones every time.
Yet if you lift the pads slightly off the head the bass level drops significantly IME, a phenomenon also confirmed by measurements from headphone enthusiasts like Tyll Hertsens.But in open-back headphones - like the HD600 - there is no air seal - they are open, whether circumaural or not. And they produce bass no problem.
The pads are quite thin and not very compliant. I wonder what after market, deep and compliant ones would do?Yet if you lift the pads slightly off the head the bass level drops significantly IME, a phenomenon also confirmed by measurements from headphone enthusiasts like Tyll Hertsens.
FWIW - I've never been able to get as much bass from my HD800S as I do from my HD600, despite measurements showing the opposite. Assuming my 800S aren't faulty (which is unlikely since I bought them new), the only thing I can attribute this to is the much looser fit of the 800S.
I found phones in the HD600,650, Breyer DT990 range all sound fat and cuddly. It’s a very nice effect but when you strip it away...Despite the Elears supposedly having an articulate but deep bass, I didn't come across it for months. Then a TV prog. or CD or record (can't remember which) had rather deep bass notes which rattled the wax in my ears. It's waxed and waned since, but hasn't fully recovered from that subterranean blast ! I look forward to it happening again ! Def. lower and clearer than my 650s.
I found phones in the HD600,650
It’s true that the choice is always made based on tastes and preferences, but ensure that your taste is within the limits highlighted.But in open-back headphones for gaming - like the HD600 - there is no air seal - they are open, whether circumaural or not. And they produce bass no problem.
Have Grado upped their game recently? I remember trying a few pairs about 10 years ago and wasn't impressed at all.