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No more SME arms!

Discussion in 'audio' started by JensenHealey, Dec 4, 2019.

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  1. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    My understanding is that the TTs & arms were started as a hobby business by the audiophile owner who is long passed.
     
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  2. YNWOAN

    YNWOAN 100% Analogue

    Blimey Jez, you better hide under the stairs after that - some people think the 3009 was the best thing since the resurrection and even the III has acolytes who will fight to the death!

    As I recall, I think Rega also recently announced that it would no longer be making their arms accessible to the OEM market. I bet Jelko have brought their Christmas party early to celebrate!
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2019
  3. herb

    herb music live

    I preferred the Mission 774 arm back in the day, but it was no looker.
     
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  4. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    One of the best arms ever made IMHO. My big regret is that for 20 plus years I thought to myself that someday their greatness will be recognised and then the price will spiral and that I should get one soon... guess what...:(:rolleyes:
     
  5. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    The Five, which many with an interest in 9" arms have aspired to for more than a generation, was a bit complex (i.e. 'fussy'), despite being very versatile. At its former price, it was competitive with its contenders launched since, but the price hike three years ago put it into fairy land in v.f.m. terms. With so many low compliance cart's coming on board and its 11g mass putting it at the low end of medium mass, it was not for Koetsus, Miyajimas and the like. It looked the biz and strutted its stuff, but there are a lot of better and cheaper arms out there, i.m.o.
     
  6. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    I've had both series II and III and really didn't like them. The III did seem to work well with an Ortofon VMS30 though. With much else cartridge wise they're dynamically and tonally flat and lifeless. Even a Linn LVX is a big step up from one! I made a killing on the III though as I bought it mounted to a Technics SL-150 MkII for £50 the pair and sold just the arm for £250! They are lovely things to handle and look at though... "Camera finish" as they say...

    The Audio Technica AT-1005 MkII I use these days was half the price of the contemporary SME series II but thrashes it!
    I'm vaguely recalling £46 for the SME and £19.50 for the AT from Comet at the time...
     
  7. chartz

    chartz pfm Member

    They will change their minds. No doubt.
     
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  8. Stunsworth

    Stunsworth pfm Member

    I had a III on a Thorens TD160 used with a VMS20E. I also used Dynavector 10X and Denon 103 in the same arm - in all cases that was with the damper.
     
  9. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    This was also on a Thorens TD160 (Super) and then an LP12. later another III on the Technics as in post above... not good.
     
  10. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Maybe the price hike was to put people off buying them because they wanted to scale back production.

    The old "make it so expensive nobody buys one, but if they do- woo hoo!" game. And now they really really don't want to sell any.
     
  11. Ptah

    Ptah pfm Member

    this one?
    [​IMG]
     
  12. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I think he means the 774.
     
  13. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    Nah the original 774... not the SM or the LC versions.
     
  14. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    You can almost see that Mission Mechanic slowly falling downwards just due to gravity!
     
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  15. John Channing

    John Channing fruit box forever

    Don't know why they bothered to make an announcement, I am sure the business is very low volume and has been for years, if they stockpiled a few dozens arms no one would have been the wiser for years, The fact they are still selling arms as part of the turntable package means they still have the tooling to make them, so what's the point of the announcement?
     
  16. cobbers

    cobbers pfm Member

    Had mine for about 12 years - going absolutely nowhere (cost me £80)
    Currently sat on my PT1:)
     
  17. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    It just sounds crazy to me. If they can sell arms as part of turntables they can clearly still make arms, so why turn their back on a market with a very good markup and upon which the company’s whole success and reputation was built. I bet A R-A is spinning in his grave tonight. His legacy deserves better than this.
     
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  18. cobbers

    cobbers pfm Member

    Can't believe that the market has changed so much that it requires them to abandon production of such iconic items in a standalone form.
    Crazy.
     
  19. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    They've brought out quite a few new turntables of late, relatively. I think they are going more down the system route.
     
  20. alanbeeb

    alanbeeb pfm Member

    Yeah but those were the arms they were making 50 years ago. Long since superseeded by the modern 3, IV and V series arms.
     
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