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New Mission 770!

Discussion in 'audio' started by Ptah, Dec 22, 2021.

  1. 57charles

    57charles pfm Member

    Looks like I over estimated the price as my original guess was £3995 - looks like a bargain at £3.5k especially as it includes stands....
     
  2. newnaim

    newnaim Active Member

    Considering they are made in the UK its probably the right price. The Wharfedale Linton Heritage have the advantage price wise of being made in China and also the KLH model 5 the same, what would they cost if they were made in the UK, you could add about a grand at least. They are going to be a limited run by all accounts wonder where you can buy them from, possibly direct.
     
  3. wow&flutter

    wow&flutter pfm Member

    Another chat with the designer.



    I’m surprised that the new version has its connectors on the rear panel and not on the base like the originals. They were a bit of a fiddle but allowed for a clean rear panel! Mind you the new stands wouldn’t hide the cables like the originals did so maybe that’s the reason. Not sure where the new crossovers are mounted in the cabinets either, again this could be a factor.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2022
  4. Ptah

    Ptah pfm Member

  5. shrink

    shrink pfm Member

    I heard a pair today, to compare against my SHL5+. I have to say I was impressed. They sounded more like than unlikely the Harbeths than I was expecting.

    when I last had Harbeths and didn’t quite get on with them, I moved to tannoy Eatons. I found them better in terms of bass but the midrange was just to recessed for me. Too cupped and closed in.

    I’d suggest the missions sit in between the two but slightly nearer the harbeth. Perhaps think of them as Harbeths with the whole Frequency plot shifted 5-10hz to the left. A bit more at the bottom and a bit less at the top.

    the rigid cabinets were evident in how clean the bass notes were, no thin walled bloom
    Here, but on the other side they struggled to match the sheer “no box” sound of the Harbeths. The shl5+ Do an amazing job of sounding unlike any cabinet speaker I’ve heard and sound more like a panel speaker in many ways.

    so as always, a game of trade offs. The missions cast a slightly bigger soundstage, have more bass, are a little softer up to and not quite as “vivid” as the Harbeths.

    in a perfect world, I’d keep everything the Harbeths do well and have the missions bass.but that’s not how the works works.

    Ultimately, I’m tempted to move the Harbeths on in favour of the missions.
     
  6. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

    I wouldn’t.
     
  7. shrink

    shrink pfm Member

    have you auditioned both ;)?

    I have, and I would lol
     
  8. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

    Nah, I’m shallow and reject them on the basis that they look like What Hifi group test runners up from 1989 in the ‘up to £150’ category… ;)
     
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  9. shrink

    shrink pfm Member

    I totally get that. I was sceptical too. I went in with a belief that they’d offer me nothing of value. But then, like the Harbeths they are fully UK made, assembled and designed. With advanced drive units, and a beefy crossover.

    I wish the front wasn’t so “white”
     
  10. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

    If I ever buy more speakers it’ll be ESLs. Can’t see me moving the P3s on; more likely to use them in a second system if that were the case. You ever tried ESLs?
     
  11. Alex S

    Alex S carbon based lifeform

    Then you’re too young. I grew up on Missions that looked like that and they sounded great.
     
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  12. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

    Keep flattering me. I like it when people ask me for ID in pubs etc.
     
  13. shrink

    shrink pfm Member

    i want more bass, not less ;)
     
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  14. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

    You’d be surprised how full the bass can be with ESLs, at least within their recommended listening levels. But definitely a good sub can help. I keep wondering about ESL63s and my SVS….
     
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  15. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    They were a really big deal at the time. They looked so different and to those of us who hadn't yet heard Spendor/Rogers/Harbeth BBC monitor class speakers the sound was a bit of a revelation.
    £379 IIRC for the originals. Quad ESL's would have been around £450, again IIRC.
     
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  16. RoA

    RoA pfm Member

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    Bargain? Yer havin a giraffe! Complete and utter rip off!! Allowing for inflation the originals would now be about £1350 and they were made in UK in Missions Cambridge factory. That is all the new one's should be selling for.
    They are really just a 2 way speaker that has been styled to tap the 80's nostalgia market of course and have diddly squat to do with the originals.
     
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  18. shrink

    shrink pfm Member

    let’s be fair though, should harbeth be charging £5000 for a flimsy cabinet, some filler and a few drivers? Probably not, but they do. We seem comfortable enough with that, so why not let mission have a slice?
     
  19. dalryc

    dalryc pfm Member

    Materials and construction are only part of a much bigger process to get a product to market.
     
  20. PerF

    PerF Scandinavian Member

    They probably set their prices to what level they believe it will sell.
    With a comfortable margin for profit of course.
     

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