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New EBLT's from Rega

Discussion in 'audio' started by dave charlton, Feb 25, 2021.

  1. PerF

    PerF Member

    That would be an awful thought
  2. dave charlton

    dave charlton pfm Member

    As I see it all the Mana Clamp is doing is allowing the piece of equipment to rest on spikes. The hard Rega feet would achieve the same (imho) but with out adjustment. Having made my own home brew Mana type sound base using angle/spikes/glass under a SET integrated, the glass killed the sound. Swapped it for a board and the music came back.
  3. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Trust me, it's not that simple. I have no idea how the Mana Clamp does what it does but it's a lot more than just provide hard feet.

    In the past, I have always found Mana to only sound right with the kit on glass. If it sounds better without the glass something is wrong and needs fixed. I set up the Clamp super carefully on glass but it didn't have the magic I'm getting on the board.
  4. dave charlton

    dave charlton pfm Member

    But it is, angle-iron/spikes/glass/board couldn't be simpler (I'm not knocking it btw). Spikes all the way for me although I'm more of an oak cone man now.
  5. lambo

    lambo pfm Member

    Hi Colin
    Yes I had board until the glass arrived
    In my system and my room I prefer the glass :)
    However it won’t take a minute to try it the other way round
    Having said that mine is on the mk2 soundframe on o ref top whether that makes a difference (??)
  6. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    I don't know. My DAC is on a four-tier Rack on four Sound Stages. on top of that are two Sound Frames, a Reference Top and now the Clamp so the Saturn-R is on nine?

    I bought four bits of Mana early last year including two Sound Frames intending to sell what I didn't need. I put an extra Frame under the Saturn just to try it, not expecting it to do anything as the CD player is just acting as a transport. Surprisingly, it was better so it ended up staying.

    But the Clamp was Wow! Not like adding another Frame or Stage, much bigger and not the same effect. Mystified.
  7. dave charlton

    dave charlton pfm Member

    Rega gets the Mana treatment, wow indeed :cool:
  8. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Seems to work under anything as far as I can tell. The Clamp is weird thing, I can't recommend it highly enough. Pain to fit it but man is it worth it.
  9. PerF

    PerF Member

    Seem ages since "buy more Mana" was the common subject.
  10. kristoffer

    kristoffer Danish Hi Fi NERD

    What about for a Planar 3 2020? :)
  11. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Well, you can't really buy it any more so it's not really a thing. I don't really want my piles to get any higher, I thought I was done. Just tried the clamp because what the heck.
  12. cjyosemite

    cjyosemite pfm Member

    Sounds good news - pity is I bought 2 spare belts when Audio-T Preston closed just over a year ago & I have not needed to use either.
  13. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 I bet you can’t wheelie a unicycle!

    They will still be worth something to someone!
  14. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

    Back to belts, presumably I don't have fancy reference belts on my Planar 8, but can anyone enlighten me what better belts would bring (in terms of musical enjoyment), assuming the existing belts are in good shape and not slipping etc.?
  15. terrycym

    terrycym pfm Member

    Better sustain and decay on piano tones
  16. essgee

    essgee pfm Member

    But if the music being listened to does not have any piano notes/parts?
  17. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Think about it like a piston rod on a steam train. Its job is to 'push and pull' the platter round. So you want it to be as stiff as possible but it also has to be flexible to go round the pulleys. At one extreme it could be so stiff it barely bends and at the other so soft it doesn't transmit the power accurately.

    Rega will have been looking for the Goldilocks formulation that results in the most accurate platter speed. I also understand they have put a lot of effort into making the cross-section of the belt round! Might sound obvious but any imperfections will translate into speed errors.

    You can hear it. I bought an aftermarket belt for the Planar3 in the shed and it sounded worse than the old belt the deck arrived with. Think of the effect of a turntable motor PSU, makes the motor run more accurately. The belt is the part that's actually transferring the power.
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  18. dave charlton

    dave charlton pfm Member

  19. JTC

    JTC PFM Villager...

  20. dave charlton

    dave charlton pfm Member

    Singly. Be pleased you don't own a Naiad.

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