Arkless Electronics
Trade: Amp design and repairs.
A cheaper Omega is better and a really cheap Casio will beat both at telling the time....
Naim's New Price List
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Martyn Miles
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Isn't the new mu-so ( strange name ) made in China?
Presumably more and more Naim kit will be made there if the new owners wish to maximise their profits.
All rather sad, and the way Quad went...
Presumably more and more Naim kit will be made there if the new owners wish to maximise their profits.
All rather sad, and the way Quad went...
Better in what sense? Certainly, the market doesn't value secondhand Omegas. It's not about telling the time, btw.
Arkless Electronics
Trade: Amp design and repairs.
A horologist once explained to me all about how the mechanism of a Omega was much better technically than a Rolex.... 'fraid I can't remember the details....
Not daft at all. Just because your model happens to have appreciated in value (not all luxury watches do after all) doesn't change the fact that it's a luxury item sold at a deliberately inflated price when new in order to enhance its appeal. It's a very basic bit of marketing, after all it was Rolex who had trouble meeting demand so they put their prices up to reduce the demand. Orders increased. I think Cristal (champagne) discovered the same.
Rack Kit
pfm Member
Bubsie,
The diver's watches are more cabbage than I'd ever spend, but at least they look nice. But those goldy / diamondy / ruby-y Rolexes... they're not just a waste of money, they're also hideous.
vs
Joe
The first is a classic, the second is just tragic.
JemHayward
pfm Member
at one time in my life I was on the Naim trail, aspiring to the top of the range system and got pretty close, but even ignoring the statement range, I couldn't afford to get back to the level I was at when I jumped ship even by selling all my cars and my current system. I can afford the wifi aerial but if anyone wants one, rather than buy the Naim one, I hae several in my junk box. It really has got out of hand/reality!
all my cars and my current system.
That's mad.
James
Lord of the Erg\o/s
Setting aside the esoterica and statement products, how can Naim justify annual price increases on essentially the same product (HiCap) that surfaced decades ago, when new cars that are so much better than their predecessors are selling for less in both relative and absolute monetary units?
Pedro83
pfm Member
Last time I bothered to read their price list, HiCaps were c.£695.00. I wish I could up the prices in my business as they have but i'm in a completely different game.
In their defence, they are simply adhering to rules which enables their products to be priced highly on any market, new or old, as ever, there is no intrinsic value. As much as many despise them, it seems to be working. Backed up by IME, very good customer care etc, they will continue to do very well. If they succeed in exporting, they have my vote, although I would never buy a new naim product, ever.
It has been interesting how they have evolved but IMO, despite being overpriced, all angles are pretty much covered.
The naim forum which I no longer visit made me cringe, literally. Sheep and willy wavers account for most of the posters which isn't my bag.
In their defence, they are simply adhering to rules which enables their products to be priced highly on any market, new or old, as ever, there is no intrinsic value. As much as many despise them, it seems to be working. Backed up by IME, very good customer care etc, they will continue to do very well. If they succeed in exporting, they have my vote, although I would never buy a new naim product, ever.
It has been interesting how they have evolved but IMO, despite being overpriced, all angles are pretty much covered.
The naim forum which I no longer visit made me cringe, literally. Sheep and willy wavers account for most of the posters which isn't my bag.
James
Lord of the Erg\o/s
It is the Rolex business model. For as long as there are enough sheep to pay the full asking price for new items, the hand-me-downs will retain their value. I'm secretly pleased I can get more for my NAIT2 than what I paid for it.
But like you, I can't imagine ever buying a new Rolex or new Naim because of the low intrinsic value.
But like you, I can't imagine ever buying a new Rolex or new Naim because of the low intrinsic value.
tof
pfm Member
How much is a reg? A few pounds not more
A quick online calculation put £750 as being about £1850 in today's prices. Now of ourse you can debate as to whether the CB kit of that era is the equivalent to the entry level pre/power combo (152x/155xs which come in at around £2150 for the 2014 price list) or a 552/500 set up...