In your (worthless IMO) opinion!
Naim Solstice officially unveiled . . .
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In your (worthless IMO) opinion!
sonddek
Trade: SUPATRAC
Great point. I also get fed up with Louis Armstrong fanbois and all the other advocates of some band or other too, when there are so many other tooters. Don't even mention all those Vargner bores. There's a chap who plays sax in my local tube station who is pretty good and I reckon that's all the music anyone needs. Music is just music, after all. I'm more interested in the break-down of music sales by genre and bandwidth. It's all about numbers when it comes to commodities like music.
Good trolling ;-)
Gervais Cote
Predator
My brain makes the same kind of calculation then yours !
Where do you think the sniping is coming from if it isn't from a low valuation of the worth of the product?
Rack Kit
pfm Member
It looks great but personally, I'm holding out for the Mk II Solstice Elite -
Awesome photoshoppery Tony!
david ellwood
Kirabosi Kognoscente
I was a little shocked when I heard how cheap it was. I fully expected it to be north of £30k
Especially as it has cartridge and phono included.
Especially as it has cartridge and phono included.
flutteringwow
She called me baby, like an old romantic
I think we also have to look towards the economic shift that has happened in all markets. Prices have gone up, in some cases astronomically, and there seems to be more of a sentiment that 'we should sell for more, and sell less', than 'sell more and sell for less'. I've noticed in my own market. The car market is also a clear indicator of that, especially from the likes of Audi etc and how cars are now 'rented' with PCP plans etc than actually bought and owned.
Maybe you're right though, £16k is conservative for Naim and the industry on a while. Truth is , I love the look of it, and it's nice to aspire to something, even if it will never be a reality for me, but like you, I'd need its performance to convince me before I locked in that love.
Central Audio
Trade Central Audio
Only around 25 dealers allocated one, it looks like it’s aimed at Statement owners with the white lit logo.
sideshowbob
Champagne fascia aficionado
I think it looks ugly, but I have no doubt it's well made and sounds good. There's nothing interesting about it as a piece of audio engineering, or as product design, however. That's a shame, but the mainstream of the high end audio industry in 2021 (and Naim is definitely part of that mainstream nowadays) is pretty dull, sadly.
I don't see the point in aspiring to own a record player until I've heard it and know I'm going to enjoy it. Wanting something based only on the hype generated by the person selling it seems particularly stupid to me.
Beobloke
pfm Member
Well, I like the looks, personally, and I was also expecting the price to be higher.
For me though, the most important thing is that it is, in most basic terms, a Clearaudio turntable, arm and cartridge with a Naim phono stage, and that sounds like a very promising setup to me.
For me though, the most important thing is that it is, in most basic terms, a Clearaudio turntable, arm and cartridge with a Naim phono stage, and that sounds like a very promising setup to me.
There are hundreds of Naim dealerships across the globe. There are over 200 of their top 500-Series dealerships. I would assume most of them will want one on dem.
flutteringwow
She called me baby, like an old romantic
I like things that look nice to me. And also, you should really include the rest of the paragraph you are quoting before you call someone stupid. As I already covered that.
pocketkitchen
Registered User
Exactly, and some dealers will want more than one, as per my example. 500 isn’t a lot with a dealer base as established as Naim’s. If they don’t sell through, though, that’s different and will perhaps limit any future production runs. I suspect they’ll do well enough to justify making some more each year, although the first batch will always generate the most excitement.
Well, a lot of the sniping is because it's Naim who are the whipping boys of many on this forum as obviously at some point Naim held a gun to people's heads and made them buy Naim products despite the fact they didn't like them or something like that anyway as I can see no other reason for them to be singled out the way they are.
However, to address the value argument. Value is not a factual entity, value is what someone perceives and one person may see value in something another does not. It's like people who slag off those who buy Porsches, Ferraris or Lamborghinis saying they are not worth the money or expensive watches or designer clothes and so on. No one is making you buy these products and if others see the value in them fair play to them... live and let live!
Jamie
pfm Member
And some say VTA does not matter....It looks great but personally, I'm holding out for the Mk II Solstice Elite -
Fretbuzz
pfm Member
Manufacturing outsourced to the Springfield nuclear power plant?To save a bit of money and still match your Naim kit
Nero
Re: Tired
I'd be surprised. I doubt there will be a Solstice XS, but I may be wrong. Roy's always wanted to make his own turntable, and I'm sure he was tempted back from 'retirement' by the thought. My worry would be the trickle up. First the special Supercap for the phono stage, then the 555PS for the power supply.
£16k is wearable - ISTR the full spec Linn Klimax LP12 is £17k. My only question mark is choosing carbon as an arm tube - it's a rather non-linear material, depending on how it's been used.