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Munich show 2023

Discussion in 'audio' started by krenzler, May 19, 2023.

  1. duckworp

    duckworp pfm Member

    Yes that was the main use. Maybe also for personal microphone amplification for speaking to large crowds? Not sure if that is right.
  2. daytona600

    daytona600 Registered User

    Cinemas rented them from WE , very , very expensive new
  3. duckworp

    duckworp pfm Member

    The sound filled the room in that Boenicke signature style, but it was even more extreme in that the large room seemed to be completely washed with music, with no identifiable source, yet still layered within the huge width and depth.
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  4. Yank

    Yank Bulbous Also Tapered

    I think there's also a high percentage of people living in flats, terraces, and semi-detached housing. Shared walls and big hifi are a poor match.
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  5. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Big doesn't have to mean oil baron money, I live in a terrace and the La Sacalas work fine, brilliant in fact.
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  6. poco a poco

    poco a poco I'm Jim

    Here is Michael Fremer’s Day 2 coverage:
  7. jamesd

    jamesd pfm Member

    any news on an updated Arcam SA30? I'd love an integrated amp with DIRAC and HDMI-ARC that's also a Roon endpoint. The SA30 fits the bill, but I've read too many bad experiences with the software to feel comfortable with the purchase.
  8. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    would arcam be at munich ? I cant see them in exhibitors
  9. pocketkitchen

    pocketkitchen Registered User

    Yes, Arcam were there, along with JBL, Levinson and the other Harman companies.
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  10. boegelund

    boegelund pfm Member

    SA30 were turned off on shelf along with other Arcam display items.
    They were running demo with some JBL loudspeakers in a separate room, didn't notice what amp in use, as I left rather quick again.
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  11. pocketkitchen

    pocketkitchen Registered User

    The Living Voice system was very very good, as was the Dartzeel system. Daft money but both were stunning.
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  12. tonerei

    tonerei pfm Member

    There were tons of 'normal' priced gear on display from a myriad of manufacturers. Lots of demo rooms with reasonable kit also. Devore for example. They had two small speakers on demo. Yes there are tons of outlandish stuff and some of it is crazily over the top but a lot of those companies also had their more reasonably priced kit on display. People go to this type of show often to hear the unobtainable. I certainly enjoyed it. My favourite room this year was the Nagra with huge Wilson speakers. It sounded just incredible to my ears. I was lucky to visit it when the I think CEO of inspex records gave a talk and played a variety of new LP pressings. Di Meola Live, a Frank Sinatra one and Patricia Barber LP. She did a demo of the ordinary pressing and the one step pressing. The difference was night and day. I don't have a turntable but mightily impressed. The nagra gear looks bland and normal but whatever they do it is great kit.

    Those speakers are special order. It seems you make an offer for them. I thought they sounded fantastic. One of my favourites of the show. They are beautifully finished, highly engineered but look to me as if they could fit ok in a normal house with a big living room.
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  13. johnhunt

    johnhunt pfm Member

  14. tonerei

    tonerei pfm Member

    - Tannoy’s new Stirling III LZ was in a small room and near a rear wall yet sounded wonderful. Better than most more pricey speakers at the show.

    @duckworp Funny I heard them a couple of times and wasn't impressed. Thought the room was very poorly done and the music being played was atrocious. They may sound completely different in a home setting but checking the specs they seem to have done some redesign on the aluminium diaphragm surround which might just make it some more etched and hard in the highs. I could be completely wrong here and it sounds fine just not in that room. Like a lot of systems it really depended on how much room treatment was used. In TAD's case they had nothing and played the music really loud.
  15. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    Someone should tell the Japanese : )

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  16. jamesd

    jamesd pfm Member

    Do they make an integrated?
  17. daytona600

    daytona600 Registered User

    ince 1953, Ortofon has been designing tonearms with the philosophy of combining craftsmanship and technology. The Reference tonearm is the culmination of decades of experience and expertise in the field of audio engineering. It upgrades the great build of the AS-212 and AS-309, combining exquisite design, precision manufacturing, and attention to detail, resulting in a beautifully designed tonearm that delivers outstanding performance.
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  18. anubisgrau

    anubisgrau pfm Member

    truth to be told, theres unusual suspects ending on that market quite some time ago - like living voice/definitive audio for example.

    you can reach that sound with way less money...
  19. johnhunt

    johnhunt pfm Member

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  20. Colin L

    Colin L High-tech low-life

    Last time I looked there’s no obligation to buy this or any other Hifi gear. Home audio ends up where you want it to end up. You choose your own end-point.

    Getting annoyed about stuff you have no interest in or desire to own seems a bit odd.
    Musicman19 likes this.

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