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Mogami 2549, the giant killer?

Cícero Shmidt

Cícero Shmidt

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I noticed that 70% of listeners typify the Mogami 2549, used as interconect, as a neutral cable. A 20-25% as a warm, and 5% as tending to be bright. Those who has listened, what do you think?
 
Pray tell, how are you arriving at your statistical analysis?

Any well shielded 2 x 22ga. conductor microphone cable with 76pF/m loop capacitance will sound as neutral as another.

I used this exact cable to make up replacement Linn LK1/LK2xx interconnects a few years ago, and they sounded no different from the original Linn sourced cables which were subsequently found by the owner of the amps (i.e. him having misplaced them lead to my making up replacements).
 
Craig B said:
Pray tell, how are you arriving at your statistical analysis?

Any well shielded 2 x 22ga. conductor microphone cable with 76pF/m loop capacitance will sound as neutral as another.

I used this exact cable to make up replacement Linn LK1/LK2xx interconnects a few years ago, and they sounded no different from the original Linn sourced cables which were subsequently found by the owner of the amps (i.e. him having misplaced them lead to my making up replacements).
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I came from about 3 different forums, where I see a sample of about 20 opinions about the same cable.

Let's say, a 14/15 think it is neutral, something around 4 or 5 think it tends to be a little veiled and one complained about brightness. But a lot of opinions are like yours. I believe this is Mogami's own positioning as well.

Is it unquestionably neutral then?
 
It's a bit of wire, 20 other people might give different views.

It is however the cable most recording studios use, so that might give you a clue as to how they think it is.
 
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earlofsodbury said:
Chances are it will sound exactly like any other cable that doesn't have some weird designed-in impedance characteristic. But other people's opinions will only ever tell you what to believe, not what is true - it's cheap, buy a couple of metres, slap some Neutrik plugs on, see what you think.
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Please, don't get me wrong. I just like a cable that does nothing. A neutral cable.

So, I'm going to make an altar to "the nothing"
 
It will sound exactly like every other cable. If anyone can prove otherwise there could be a Nobel prize in it for them. Whilst many aspects of the Copenhagen understanding of physics are a grey area, I'm unaware of any real challenge to Ohm's Law, Faraday's Law, Maxwells equations etc etc

Do magic cable believers really think that if there was a real difference then it would not have been heard/discovered until about 1982? Hi fi was a much bigger thing in the 70's.... you'd think someone might have noticed...
 
Eyebroughty said:
It's a bit of wire, 20 other people might give different views.

It is however the cable most recording studios use, so that might give you a clue as to how they think it is.
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Yes, after Windham Hill began boasting of its use during recording of their master tapes back in the early '80s, as if it had much to do with the final sound quality of their records vs. their then use of a lovely high speed analog R2R recorder (1/2in half-track at 30in/sec, and no Dolby, IIRC).

Mogami is of high quality construction and relatively inexpensive, though; of course, this can be said of quite a few brands. Initially, I was going to buy some Digiflex brand off the reel mic/instrument cable that the musician's shop here sells when the manager offered a left over scrap of the 2549 for a similar price. Funny enough, they had special ordered some in for a bloke who was setting up his first home studio and simply had to have the Mogami. Had he known his arse from a hole in the ground, he would have specified the star-quad version.
 
For me it sounds pleasant without weaknesses.
I don't know if it's neutral or warm.
Just good.
A QED Audio 40, on the other hand, is annoying and bad...
 
Cícero Shmidt said:
Have you used Mogami?
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Yes I have, I use it for interconnects and speaker cable on some of my systems.

However let me give more detail, the Mogami I use is Neglex 2534 Microphone cable for the interconnects with Eichmann Bullet Plugs, there is a diagram on how to connect the cable to the plugs as well as links to the cable and plugs.

https://mogamicable.com/category/bulk/microphone/quad/

http://totallywired.co.nz/eichmann-bullet.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142416910@N08/albums/72157719651818759


The speaker cable is Mogami 2972 with Eichmann Bayonet Plugs, or sometimes just plain Z plugs

https://www.hhb.co.uk/prod/mogami/four-2mm-conductor-superflexible-cable-2972-per-metre/

Download the data sheet to see the specs

https://www.vhaudio.com/bayonet.html

I usually use this with either my Linn system or Quad Valve system, my Naim system uses all Naim cables.

However I have used many different interconnects and speaker cables and still have quite a few and one interconnect that is worthy of a mention is the Audioquest Mackenzie's they are very good, better than my Mogami in both the Linn and Quad systems, also a speaker cable I have recently used is Rega's Quattro cable, it is pretty amazing with my Linn system, better than the Kimber 8TC, Linn K20 and Mogami 2972.

https://www.audioquest.com/cables/analog-interconnects/river-series/mackenzie

https://www.analogueseduction.net/t...tro-single-wire-speaker-cable-terminated.html

It all depends on the system you are using, how the interconnects and speaker cables interact with the system and room, there is no quick answer to this, you try and see what sounds right for you, yes it is just wire, however it can make a difference, a small one compared to changing speakers, but differences there are irrespective of what anyone says.

If I was to try and describe the differences between using the Mogami or the Audioquest and Rega in my Linn system I would say the Mogami was polite, easy to listen to and an open sound, the Audioquest and Rega cables are dynamic like nothing I have heard before, very fast, right out front and you can hear just how things were recorded, which in some cases sound amazing and in others it sounds terrible while the Mogami just sounds fine.

You have to try and learn by yourself, others will never have the same ears as you have, even listening in your room, so just play about with a few things and see what you end up with.
 
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Eyebroughty said:
Yes I have, I use it for interconnects and speaker cable on some of my systems.

However let me give more detail, the Mogami I use is Neglex 2534 Microphone cable for the interconnects with Eichmann Bullet Plugs, there is a diagram on how to connect the cable to the plugs as well as links to the cable and plugs.

https://mogamicable.com/category/bulk/microphone/quad/

http://totallywired.co.nz/eichmann-bullet.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/142416910@N08/albums/72157719651818759


The speaker cable is Mogami 2972 with Eichmann Bayonet Plugs, or sometimes just plain Z plugs

https://www.hhb.co.uk/prod/mogami/four-2mm-conductor-superflexible-cable-2972-per-metre/

Download the data sheet to see the specs

https://www.vhaudio.com/bayonet.html

I usually use this with either my Linn system or Quad Valve system, my Naim system uses all Naim cables.

However I have used many different interconnects and speaker cables and still have quite a few and one interconnect that is worthy of a mention is the Audioquest Mackenzie's they are very good, better than my Mogami in both the Linn and Quad systems, also a speaker cable I have recently used is Rega's Quattro cable, it is pretty amazing with my Linn system, better than the Kimber 8TC, Linn K20 and Mogami 2972.

https://www.audioquest.com/cables/analog-interconnects/river-series/mackenzie

https://www.analogueseduction.net/t...tro-single-wire-speaker-cable-terminated.html

It all depends on the system you are using, how the interconnects and speaker cables interact with the system and room, there is no quick answer to this, you try and see what sounds right for you, yes it is just wire, however it can make a difference, a small one compared to changing speakers, but differences there are irrespective of what anyone says.

If I was to try and describe the differences between using the Mogami or the Audioquest and Rega in my Linn system I would say the Mogami was polite, easy to listen to and an open sound, the Audioquest and Rega cables are dynamic like nothing I have heard before, very fast, right out front and you can hear just how things were recorded, which in some cases sound amazing and in others it sounds terrible while the Mogami just sounds fine.

You have to try and learn by yourself, others will never have the same ears as you have, even listening in your room, so just play about with a few things and see what you end up with.
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I very much appreciated your answer. Thank you for that.

Has anyone tried the Mogami 2964, or was it able to compare it with the 2549?
 
Brennus said:
I made rca interconnects with 2964 and Rean plugs. Marginally outperforms Linn black leads, but that’s probably my superior soldering.;)
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Plus there was the never ending fear that, with anything less than Linn's seemingly hewn from solid RCA sockets (at least back in the LK1 days), the -ve rings were going to be ripped clean off the next time one attempted to unplug CONN 454 (aka Linn Black Interconnect).
 
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I specced this cable for my custom made interconnects, combined with Rean Neutrik metal bodied rca connectors, and cardas eutectic silver solder. I find them to be neutral, very detailed, perhaps a bit veiled compared to a pair of SHB super duper cables (no, I can't remember what they were called! I ordered a pair of their mid-range cables, Wilf built and sent me a pair of the top-end cables).
 
I have used Mogami interconnects, and speaker cables. The interconnects are adequate, but nothing special. They lose a bit of detail, but are quite balanced sounding. They would not be my first choice in cables - although I still have a few pairs somewhere - but in a non-critical application they are fine. The speaker cables are quite dark and muddy sounding, and were a bit disappointing.

Arkless Electronics said:
It will sound exactly like every other cable. If anyone can prove otherwise there could be a Nobel prize in it for them. Whilst many aspects of the Copenhagen understanding of physics are a grey area, I'm unaware of any real challenge to Ohm's Law, Faraday's Law, Maxwells equations etc etc
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As an expert in the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, it's surprising that you fix radios for a living.
 
RossB said:
I have used Mogami interconnects, and speaker cables. The interconnects are adequate, but nothing special. They lose a bit of detail, but are quite balanced sounding. They would not be my first choice in cables - although I still have a few pairs somewhere - but in a non-critical application they are fine. The speaker cables are quite dark and muddy sounding, and were a bit disappointing.



As an expert in the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics, it's surprising that you fix radios for a living.
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Which speaker cables do you use?
 
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