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Met police to hand in weapons and stop killing black Britons

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Dogberry, Sep 14, 2022.

  1. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    Of course they're not ,but threatening to hand in weapons in support of a suspended colleague,
    not out of any consideration for the victim or wrongful shooting.
    It's difficult not to think of these elite groups as having a culture of macho vigilantism.
    Meanwhile the victim unarmed unidentified was shot through this car window.
    Maybe an investigation will tell us they did the right thing.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.st...ting-armed-police-streatham-b1025437.html?amp
     
  2. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Some people need to put themselves in the position of somebody who, rightly or wrongly, believes there to be a threat, with all the responsibility of having a firearm and responsibility for public safety.
    Been there, didn’t pull the trigger, still had frightmares for years after.
     
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  3. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    Why?
    Aren't they trained to avoid being trigger happy.
    Are there not rules of engagement.
    Has nothing been learned since Charles de Menezes.
     
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  4. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    There’s one flaw in all that: humans.

    We make mistakes.

    We fly planes into the ground.
    We drown while scuba diving.
    We cut the wrong bit during surgery.
    We drive into stationary cars.

    It’s going to happen, as sad as it is.
     
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  5. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    The car was suspect.
    They rammed and stopped it.
    They didn't know who the driver was.
    They didn't know if he was armed.
    They did know he was black.
    They just shot.
    He was unarmed.
     
  6. psd122

    psd122 pfm Member

    Bet they wouldn't have shot a blue eyed blonde fella
     
  7. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    As Tony says, humans make mistakes. Big ones when weapons are involved and there is a limited time in which to make a decision based on imperfect information.
     
  8. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    No?
    They certainly did in the 80s when there were blue eyed blonde haired chaps driving around London with strong Irish accects.
     
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  9. psd122

    psd122 pfm Member

    Never been a blonde fella/female in our Irish history
     
  10. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    That's boring - much better to have some working assumptions based on previous behaviour of 'all' AFO's' in the Met.

    The family do deserve answers, at the very least. Hopefully the actual truth will out, either way. Our police should operate transparently and have accountability.

    Disclaimer - ex AFO of 10 years. (1991-2000).

    I'll go back to lurking - one thing this forum can do is police-bash par-excellence...
     
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  11. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    I did say maybe an investigation will tell us if they
    did the right thing
     
  12. psd122

    psd122 pfm Member

    ^^^
    Also never ever met a blonde Irishman in my life.
     
  13. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I certainly have. I take it you've not spent much time there?
     
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  14. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

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    Northern Ireland footie team.
     
  15. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Maybe blond, not blonde?
     
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  16. psd122

    psd122 pfm Member

    We're not from that part
     
  17. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    So what? I'm pretty confident that the NI footy team all count as Irish. Unless you reckon they're a set of ringers sent in from Jamaica.
     
  18. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    You did, amongst other prose which I’ll ignore.

    I have not been involved in MetPol F/arms in any capacity since 2000. I did mutual aid with them many times in the 90’s.

    I have been involved in operational matters involving f/arms as a supervisor.

    My initial view is there is no point in me explaining further. The investigation, press and general opinion will do the rest.
     
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  19. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    Any of those using a colour on their hair? Not unheard of in footballers.
     
  20. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Yeah, no doubt they did it in advance just to derail this thread. Quick thinking, for a bunch of footballers, I must say.
     

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