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Discussion in 'off topic' started by gintonic, Jul 31, 2022.

  1. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    give us your favourite. Needs to be nice and bitter. Not sweet.

    Am thinking of making something interesting.
  2. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Reflections of my Life was my favourite.
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  3. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

  4. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Not a huge fan of anything but orange.
    I used to buy Frank Cooper Original Vintage, but that hasn't be available in Tecso's for months. Almost as good - Tesco Finest - Dark Seville.

    If you spend only a little time searching online, LOTS of home-made preserve fanatics make marmalade from just the peel - freeze any citrus peel as it is available until they have enough for a batch.
  5. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

  6. sideshowbob

    sideshowbob Champagne fascia aficionado

    I make my own, it's easy, although Seville oranges are only available in the local greengrocer for a few weeks each year, usually around February, so I buy a few kilos and make enough to last a year.

    Assuming a kilo of oranges, put them in enough boiling water to cover them and simmer in a large covered pan for a couple of hours. Remove the oranges and let them cool a bit, keep the liquid. Scoop all the pulp and seeds out of the oranges and force it all through a sieve into the liquid. Finely chop the peel and add that, all of it. Add a bit more water, and sugar to taste (I use less than most people because I like it bitter), and a bit of lemon juice for the pectin. Boil it up for 25 minutes or so and then pour it into warmed sterilised jars. Best marmalade ever.
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  7. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    this is the bit I am interested in. Any idea how much for a 1kg of oranges
  8. narabdela

    narabdela who?

    Bonne Maman Bitter Orange is the current favourite chez nous.
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  9. kensalriser

    kensalriser pfm Member

    Although there's a lot of pectin in oranges, you still need enough sugar to create the right chemistry for the marmalade to set properly. Just google a few recipes and figures out the least you can get away with, my guess is it will be not much less than the original weight of the oranges.
  10. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Mot recipes add one lemon to around 1kg or Seville oranges.
    Sugar varies from 1:1 with oranges to 2:1 with oranges.

    You do add water but then boil/reduce until you get a set.
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  11. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    arnt Seville oranges higher in pectin which might allow for less sugar
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  12. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Simple maths required - :)

    Frank Cooper is moderately sharp.
    Made with 30% Seville oranges
    Seville oranges are around 10% sugar (so, they contribute - ? to the sugar content? Not much)
    Total sugars in Frank Cooper - around 50%

    Looks like you need 1-1.5 : 1 sugar to oranges.
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  13. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    thank you - useful
  14. doctorf

    doctorf left footed right winger

    My wife makes fantastic marmalade with Seville oranges, but they are in the shops around the turn of the year, not mid summer.
  15. cj66

    cj66 pfm Member

    Unfortunately no clue on the recipe but while in Spain, a very lovely English expat lady, made her own from locally grown Seville oranges.
    The most amazing marmalade I have ever tasted. She made both sweet and bitter, my wife loved the sweet and I devoured the bitter.
    I have never since encountered it's equal.
    Thank you Dianne.
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  16. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    So far as pectin is concerned - you need enough to get a set, and I BELIEVE that oranges aren't as high as lemons - hence you add lemon juice (or pectin - can't remember the name, but in a bottle), to things like strawberry jam, which has all but none, so won't set.

    Apples have plenty too - easily extracted by boiling skins and cores.
  17. Pete MB&D

    Pete MB&D Pete Maddex, the one and only!

    Home made is best, I make all my own jams and it’s going to be a bumper crop this year, so blackberry, plum lime and ginger, and mirabell and orange, I need to buy some jam jars.

  18. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Give them a call, I’m sure they’d be delighted to discuss. Alternatively order them all and see which you prefer!
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  19. Operajulian

    Operajulian Opera Julian

    Time for me to fess up. I have competed many times in the World Marmalade Awards ( all the way from Canada ) and won many bronze and silver certificates - though gold still eludes me by half a point. Anyhow - here is one of the best preserve makers - Pam Corbin's recipe.
    (Two parts sugar to one of fruit )
    There are also videos of her on the You Tube.

    Happy jammin'
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  20. sideshowbob

    sideshowbob Champagne fascia aficionado

    Most recipes suggest anything up to twice as much sugar as Seville oranges. But I use less - I tend to use 1.4 kilos of sugar to 1 kilo of oranges.

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