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Loudspeakers You Wish To Try But Probably Won't Own In This Lifetime

Discussion in 'audio' started by ryder, Oct 23, 2021.

  1. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    I don’t see the point in the multi driver arrays or what advantage they bring? Surely it makes for a very complex crossover & lots of unnecessary wiring, the height is also utterly ridiculous.
     
  2. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    It’s to justify the price. I mean, you can see where the money’s gone.

    By contrast there’s a review of some Burmester speakers in the current issue of HiFi Plus; fairly ordinary-looking oblong boxes, not that large. The price? Just short of a hundred thousand of your English pounds.
     
  3. gints

    gints pfm Member

    With arrays you can get higher sensitivity and increased scale.

    I would like to listen some big driver speakers in open space environment, loud and without distortion.
     
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  4. John Phillips

    John Phillips pfm Member

    I agree about the PMC marketing. Actually the bass alignment they brand as ATL, or at least something effectively similar, is used by other manufacturers. You can see this if you look at Stereophile's tests and see that it's not only PMC where the port output is broadband as depicted in the section on PMC of Newell and Holland's loudspeakers book.

    Actually the reason I wish to try the PMCs is more intellectual curiosity than any intention to buy. That PMC's ATL is really a port with a particular tuning looks right to me. I have read a lot of generalizations about reflex ports that don't always correspond to what I hear. Although I have now retired I refuse to turn off my brain and getting a better understanding of loudspeakers has been a "project".

    And yes, re ATCs. There are something like five orthodox ways of solving the reflex port equation and they can differ quite a lot. That's one of the reasons I think the generalizations aren't universally true. However there are lots of people here with real experience of loudspeaker building and I'm wary I might be writing rubbish.
     
  5. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Well, I can dream, can’t I?

    Just goes to show that having boatloads of money doesn’t endow you with taste, or class.
     
  6. chartz

    chartz If it’s broke fix it!

    I agree. Good speakers can be expensive but don’t have to be gigantic and ugly.
     
  7. davidsrsb

    davidsrsb pfm Member

    PMC impedance measurements that I have seen, show the double hump of a reflex port, so I assume that they are actually resistive loaded reflex, like TDL RTLs were. Truer TLs have a fairly flat and single humped curve. My TDL T-Line 3s have this.
     
  8. tonerei

    tonerei pfm Member

    Yes but have you heard something like the Wilson Alexa's? They are big and kinda ugly but sound incredible. Completely different experience to an ESL. Of course one would want to be blown away given the price difference.
     
  9. chartz

    chartz If it’s broke fix it!

    No I haven’t. For that kind of price I can go to concerts twice a day till the end of my life.
    Well, once a week will do!
    I could accommodate them at home if someone gave me a pair though. :p
     
  10. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    The advantage, as far as I know, is constant directivity. If narrow then you increase the direct/reflected sound ratio. In other words you listen to more of the recorded signal and less to the room.
     
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  11. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    I could be wrong but won't using TL as an alternative to a BR port result in a huge increase in group delay at the resonant frequency?
     
  12. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 I bet you can’t wheelie a unicycle!

    I’m with you on that… I actually only have my daughter with me, and she’s a music lover but not much of a social listener as myself, she has her own system, and headphones and tends to listen alone… I however am a social listener, I’ve friends and family outside of my household who are music lovers, and we quite regularly have get togethers where we take turns picking an album, a system we can all enjoy at the same time is definitely a plus. My main system is good at that, you lose the pin point imaging if you’re sat off to the side, but it still sounds tonally even and entertaining. Further to that, my main system (well both systems) are also used for TV/movie sound so a good off axis response is pretty important.
     
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  13. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

    Wait 'till they're in their teens...
     
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  14. Rana

    Rana pfm Member

    Infinity IRS for me. Knocked me out the only time I heard them...Basically I will need a mansion just to house them! Love to try and hear big MBLs again, I didn't realise what I was listening to the first time I encountered them so I let the looks put me off and didn't stick around.
     
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  15. ex brickie

    ex brickie pfm Member

    I’d love to hear the top of the range Focal Grande Utopias - in the right size room.

    Also the B&W Nautilus (snail design speaker which looks like a work of art)
     
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  16. Darren

    Darren All Business

    Yes..... and I kinda like it like that.... my ears/brain interpret that as a 'live' sound - a musical event being recreated in my lounge.... whereas mini monitors sound slightly too controlled and 'small'
     
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  17. Rosewind

    Rosewind Lost in Translation

    Tannoy 12 or 15" beasts.
    Magnepan 3.7i + 20.7 + 30.7
    Qiad ESL 2812 + 2912
    ATC 40, 50, 100, 110, 150, 200.
     
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  18. maccar

    maccar pfm Member

    I now own speakers I never thought I would ever be able to afford, Harbeth 40.3 XD and they will be my last.
    Mac
     
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  19. daytona600

    daytona600 Registered User

    Cabasse Sphere quadriaxial with 21inch Woofer
    [​IMG]
     
  20. Singslinger

    Singslinger pfm Member

    ProAc K10s.
     
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