Little Amal’s epic walk
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eternumviti
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It appears to be Amal, not Amel, you might want to change it.
Notwithstanding the impartial observation that she looks quite old for a little girl, a moving and rather beautiful piece of theatre. The (British) makers seem to go to some length to say that it isn't a political statement, though you are clearly projecting it as one. Hard not to, I guess.
Notwithstanding the impartial observation that she looks quite old for a little girl, a moving and rather beautiful piece of theatre. The (British) makers seem to go to some length to say that it isn't a political statement, though you are clearly projecting it as one. Hard not to, I guess.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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I didn't see anything in that Grauniad report that suggested it wasn't political. I imagine the organisers want to avoid it becoming party political lest people take sides, but the political intent is writ large in every movement, surely?
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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Perhaps they have friends or family already here. Perhaps they have some English as a second language and think their prospects will be better if they speak it?
ks.234
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Refugees don’t just go the England, in fact the UK is 16th in Europe for asylum applications. Most go to Germany.
droodzilla
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It's a question that has been answered many times on this forum. Also, Google is your friend.
Meanwhile, I can't recommend Daniel Trillings book about the refugee crisis highly enough:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1509815635/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21
He's essentially a liberal, but I have the utmost respect for him cause he is consistent and principled in his liberalism. It's a marvellous, moving book that, tangentially, addresses your question.
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Thanks @Sue Pertwee-Tyr @ks.234 @droodzilla
I generally have little or no interest in politics or political threads, my attention was drawn to the thread and I only read the article as it mentioned Art and I have a little interest in Art.
I wasn't suggesting that Syrian refugees 'just go to England ' either @ks.234
I was just curious as to why they would pass through other countries which obviously the majority do not.
I generally have little or no interest in politics or political threads, my attention was drawn to the thread and I only read the article as it mentioned Art and I have a little interest in Art.
I wasn't suggesting that Syrian refugees 'just go to England ' either @ks.234
I was just curious as to why they would pass through other countries which obviously the majority do not.
eternumviti
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I don't disagree, however...
'The aim is to present an “artistic moment that creates compassion” rather than to score political points, artistic director Amir Nizar Zuabi says.'
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/oct/18/threatened-puppet-refugee-little-amals-epic-walk?
Tony L
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Against the current political culture of demonising, scapegoating and even setting the way for drowning refugees a work that generates sympathy is as political as things get. It is a perspective fundamentally at odds with right-wing popularism. Making people think is exactly what good art does.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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I think that's what I mean by not getting party political. 'Scoring political points' rather implies you're scoring against an opponent.
Richard Lines
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This isn't the first time this point has been made on this forum, but it is also a fact a fair number get deported as well. It is quite easy to find 'headline' figures as to which country takes in refugees but figures relating to how many remain seems to be much more difficult to determine. As far as I can tell Germany has deported as many as 45%? - https://www.dw.com/en/two-years-since-germany-opened-its-borders-to-refugees-a-chronology/a-40327634 - but this is old information.
Regards
Richard
eternumviti
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Chancellor Merkel keeps famously close tabs on public opinion. When opinion was strongly pro-taking in refugees at the peak of the crisis, she opened the doors. As soon as public opinion turned against it, she slammed them shut again. Deportation of refused asylum-seekers does indeed run into fairly high figures.
eternumviti
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Sure, but I didn't mention party political. I simply said that the people who organised this went to some lengths to point out that they weren't making a political statement. Nothing to do with political parties.
PhilofCas
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Exactly, but the Tories, BBC and others have done such a good job at brainwashing, that numpties think we’re top of the league.
Brexit is dun. They could give it a rest now...
PhilofCas
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True, but they can’t help themselves…..
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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I think your inference is mistaken. The statement you quoted was saying 'we're not out to score political points'. You inferred this as 'we're not making a political statement'. I think that's an incorrect inference, which is what I've been trying to explain to you.
At a fundamental level, pretty much all art, certainly all good art, is political in some degree. This is distinct from being 'party political'. Amal is no different.