droodzilla
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Nice.How's France, anyway?
Nice.How's France, anyway?
But seriously... yeah, all good thanks. I'm well settled in my apartment in Lyon, and I'm in my third week of work (fourth week here).How's France, anyway?
I like how the bars have a civilised burble, no cackling, braying or shrieks of laughter. Everyone is quite relaxed. And the tram is silent. My kids embarrass me when we got on one.But seriously... yeah, all good thanks. I'm well settled in my apartment in Lyon, and I'm in my third week of work (fourth week here).
It's hard to make generalisations but there's a big canteen at the site where I work and almost everyone uses it, followed by after-lunch coffee together in a communal are in the building where I work. It seems much more companiable than the UK but it might just be the corporate culture of Solvay.
It's turning into a fun adventure but I don't think I could do what you've done and up sticks completely. I get too homesick and, in any case, have a lingering affection for England, even if it's in danger of becoming a far-right shithole.
Yeah. Europe does seem to have a bigger proportion of proper grown-ups; probably why we Brits don't fit inI like how the bars have a civilised burble, no cackling, braying or shrieks of laughter. Everyone is quite relaxed. And the tram is silent. My kids embarrass me when we got on one.
I am of course, getting old. 25 years ago I might have said they were all boring and restrained.
speak for yourself, rosbif. I'm turning grenouille.Yeah. Europe does seem to have a bigger proportion of proper grown-ups; probably why we Brits don't fit in
I like how the bars have a civilised burble
where's here?bit like round here.
I’ll be far beyond amazed if the Lib Dems don’t take seats and Corbyn’s Labour lose them come a GE. FWIW I’m not a huge fan of Swinson, and she certainly wouldn’t have been my choice to lead the party, but you can’t deny she’s doing rather better than Corbyn who looks set to lose around 30 seats, maybe more! Sure, the LDs are just a minor party on the ascendancy rather than a major one in obvious decline, so all they can hope for is to hold the balance of power, which I’m pretty certain they will. The rest is huff and bluster.
A far more interesting question is whether Corbyn will lead Labour to their worst result in the party’s history? One for next week’s thread, and quite likely IMHO (hence all the rabid attack dogs and trolls gunning for the Lib Dems). The Labour conference next week will be an interesting watch for sure. I wonder how the leader’s speech will go down in the room given so many MPs in his own party can’t stand him! I expect much grimacing! #DoorstepChallenge
You’ll probably come back to Hull for a visit in a couple of years and get fingered to the local Brexit Party Gauleiter who’ll sentence you to five years on a collective potato farm for collaborating with the enemy.speak for yourself, rosbif. I'm turning grenouille.
Alas, recent history shows what allowing the "LDs to hold the balance of power" means. In reality, they hand round the biscuits during cabinet meetings and acquiesce to what the Tories decide. Lipstick on a pig.
Not at all. They thankfully learned their lesson and have propped up no one despite having more seats than the DUP at the last election and a hell of a lot more now.
Quite simply: we would not be in this mess now if they hadn't enabled it. And I don't just mean 'Brexit'.
As far as I can tell all of the major parties have played a part in enabling Brexit and all are playing electoral calculus with scant regard to the future of the country.
The Tories played their part when Cameron announced a Brexit referendum to try to placate nationalists within his own party and stop Ukip gaining Tory seats.As far as I can tell all of the major parties have played a part in enabling Brexit and all are playing electoral calculus with scant regard to the future of the country.
See post 173The Tories played their part when Cameron announced a Brexit referendum to try to placate nationalists within his own party and stop Ukip gaining Tory seats.
The electorate (those who voted) then enabled it by voting for it.
I don't see how Labour has enabled it. Can you explain?
Not at all. They thankfully learned their lesson and have propped up no one despite having more seats than the DUP at the last election and a hell of a lot more now.
Learned? Having elected a leader with a voting record Iike Swinson’s I doubt it. She’s voted with the right wing nationalists on austerity, immigration, health and schools and not apologies. And she’s welcomed with open arms right wing nationalists form the Tories.
The LD’s propped up one right wing governments and voted through Brexit, austerity anti public service legislation and pandering to the nationalists, there is nothing to suggest they’ve changed and much to suggest their basic DNA remains Tory
Indeed. All the parties appear to have abandoned as irrelevant any notions of technical competence in the day-to-day management of the country. Perhaps they are correct in that it simply doesn't sell to the voters but it is getting more and more urgent for the interests of the majority that some technical competence is brought to bear to adjust how wealth is currently flowing, to slow and reverse the destruction of our social infrastructure and to start removing some wealth from the excessively wealthy in a manner they are prepared to accept. Until one of the political parties starts doing this our current downwards trajectory for the majority is going to continue with more and more expressions of social instability like the self harm of brexit, growing faith in extremism on the left and right, etc...As far as I can tell all of the major parties have played a part in enabling Brexit and all are playing electoral calculus with scant regard to the future of the country.