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Let There Be Rock

Discussion in 'audio' started by Charlie_1, Jun 7, 2021.

  1. Charlie_1

    Charlie_1 pfm Member

    Having downgraded and gone back in time, I can't help but feel that rock music has been a casualty of 3+ decades of pursuit of cleaner / cleaner / more detailed sound. As a teenager, all my friends' budget systems could rock with ease. Go to a hifi show these days (when they're open again) and nearly everyone is playing boring cr@p that sounds impressive. These setups just don't rock. They say, 'rock music is too simple and you need to hear something more complex'. No, I just want to hear a system that can keep time properly and not dump any rhythmic information in the bin at the expense of greater resolution and transparency. Rock on Tommy!

    What great rock systems/components have you heard?
     
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  2. Eyebroughty

    Eyebroughty JohnC

    My Linn/Naim Triamped Isobarik system rocked, even the neighbours told me so :D
     
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  3. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Just seen this.

    I habtually listen to drum and bass, electronic, ambient, modern clasical, but stuck some ACDC on the TT, just to test.

    The air-guitar and uncontrollable foot movement and urge to pump up the volume were there within a very few seconds.

    Whatever that means........................
     
  4. jamington2004

    jamington2004 pfm Member

    A fellow drum and bass fan! Hard to find the good stuff these days I find! :)

    Must visit the music section and start a thread on it!
     
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  5. Frizzy

    Frizzy Liberal anarchist

    We didn’t know better in seventies, most live gigs had rubbish pa’s. So home hifi sounded like a bad Pa, that’s where naim stepped in and isobaric style reigned supreme.
     
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  6. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Fook, this ACDC is GOOD...............................................

    My 3-4-5-6-monthly dose!!
     
  7. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    That has got to be one of the greater understatements on PFM.............

    In truth, what a studio could do at the time, could never be done live, I strongly suspect.
     
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  8. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    For those about to rock....
     
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  9. Musicman19

    Musicman19 Active Member

    Yep my briks rock too
     
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  10. Frizzy

    Frizzy Liberal anarchist

    Interesting how much playback has caught up with recording, most laptops can work as a porta studio, and as a high end source.
    Strange in 1965 the record printers never knew the sonic possibilities of the discs they made?
     
  11. pocketkitchen

    pocketkitchen Registered User

    John Burns of Pear Audio and I once popped a fuse on on of his demo Shahinian Diapason’s playing Zep III. That system rocked, as did the Linn Keltik/Klout system at Audio Excellence Chester many moons ago.

    At a much cheaper level, my old 72/140 and Royd Minstrel system was brilliant for rock music.
     
  12. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Maybe a lot of the rock play "hassle" stems from the really dreadful quality of records in the 70's - 80's - 90's? For me a great period but recodings seem, on average, to have been dreadful?
     
  13. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    Already in this thread.. four major variables have been introduced...

    Good luck!! :D
     
  14. Gervais Cote

    Gervais Cote Predator

    I’m a rock bass player so..........

    It took a while but I have now 3 kits that really rock.

    First : Naim CD5XS/Flatcap/Supernait used as a preamp/NAP 250.2 with custom made isobaric bookshelf with an F3 of 32 Hz. In my small room, it feels like a large 15 inch woofer in terms of chest pressure but always perfectly controlled.

    Second : Marantz CD used as a transport/ highly modified AK4497 DAC/Exposure XXI/IV mk2 unregulated with custom made bookshelf based on Motus 6 inch woofer.

    Third and probably my best : Same source as second, Naim NAC 32.5/Hicap/NAP 160 BD with custom made floor standers with 6 inch Carbon-Rohacell Satori. This latest plays a 5 or 6 string bass guitar with ease, going down to 28 Hz without losing control but in a powerful way, at least in my room of 16 foot x 11 foot large. Double bass drum punch hard and deep but you can clearly hear the pause between two kicks as the small woofer is reacting very quickly.

    As a rule of thumb, a good low moving mass 6 or 6 1/2 inch woofer into a 1 cubic foot enclosure gives the best results, as long as you don’t go over 95 dB, all IMO, of course.

    Another cheap one that rocks : Tangent TM1
     
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  15. RJohan

    RJohan pfm Member

    Large JBL's is obvious.
     
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  16. david ellwood

    david ellwood Kirabosi Kognoscente

    Just? That’s easily the biggest challenge for any system!
     
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  17. graystoke4

    graystoke4 pfm Member

    every time you go to a show, the BIG boys krell dan D, etc, all play shocking Nepalese nose flute's , and crap, you hear a great song from a room playing Zep Eagles, dire St, the rooms are rammed, that's what we play and what we want to hear, bring on Scools out, by alice every day,,
     
  18. Bas V

    Bas V pfm Member

    This is just your mind playing tricks on you. All kids's systems rock to their ears. And playing 'audiophile' music at dealers / hifi-shows is nothing new. It's just you getting older chap...

    Besides this party-pooper remark: nothing beats a Naim at rocking the suburbs!
     
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  19. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    One has...
    One concurrs...
     
  20. tiggers

    tiggers pfm Member

    This why I stopped going to hifi shows, what's the point of listening to music I don't know and don't like.
     
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