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Labour Leader: Keir Starmer VII

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Seeker_UK, Jun 21, 2022.

  1. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Is this all there is?

    I hope he is getting support, but I would want to see something in a paper that wasn't the Graun, Mirror or Morning Star before I was 100% convinced he was getting a favorable response with supporters outside of the expected demographic.
  2. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    No sensible person believes that lefties slagging off Labour on a hifi forum, or anywhere else, could ever result in a Tory government. So why do people keep saying it? Because going on to a discussion forum specifically to tell people to STFU is just too obviously weird.
  3. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

  4. kendo

    kendo Prussian bot

    Labour win Wakefield by-election.
    gavreid likes this.
  5. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Boris will go, hopefully. Good wins for Libs and Labour.
  6. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    I think pfm has a good history of reflecting trends. That’s not to say it reflects the political balance in the country as a whole, but which way things are going. As such, I hope the support for Mick Lynch speaking to the country on vital issues that our *all* our political parties fail to do, is gaining traction.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr and ff1d1l like this.
  7. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    Really good win for Sir Kier’s Labour Party in Wakefield. Thank God for Cenrists.
    Woodface and tonerei like this.
  8. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    The Guardian isn't exactly pro-union.
  9. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Only if they tell him the game is up.
  10. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    I hear from Sky News that till-dipping right-wing Labour gammon Ian Austin is already briefing against the party. No surprise since he was always on the UKIP/EDL wing of the party as I recall.
  11. Dave***t

    Dave***t Revolutionary relativist

    Not Labour for some time, and ennobled by Johnson for services to Brexit and turncoatery.

    What a guy.
  12. TheDecameron

    TheDecameron Unicorns fart glitter.

    Another Red Wall seat, Stoke, that needs to be taken off this complete sh1t:


    Gammon through and through.

    In October 2021, Gullis suggested at a fringe meeting during the Conservative Party conference that people using the term "white privilege" should be reported to the Home Office as extremists and that teachers found criticising the Conservative Party should be sacked.[24][25][26]

    January 2022 Gullis drew attention due to his lack of a face covering and "bellowing with his mouth wide open and appearing to rock backwards and forwards" in the Commons during Prime Minister's Questions.
  13. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Is this all there is?

    Not even then, I think.
  14. tonerei

    tonerei pfm Member

    Once they don't let it go to their heads. It is only a tentative start.
  15. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    I disagree. pfm members predicted that the Con/Dem coalition would quickly collapse, that Trump would lose the 2016 US election, and that Remain would win the EU Referendum. The pfm membership is predominantly liberal/soft left, and there’s nearly always a fair amount of wishful thinking in its discussions.
    Covkxw, Darmok, droodzilla and 3 others like this.
  16. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Is this all there is?

    Couldn't have put that better myself. Thanks Joe.
  17. Kirk

    Kirk pfm Member

    Mick has become a media darling but he's arguably getting more attention for his delivery than his message (which seems to be morphing into the usual: we want more money). However, if he succeeds in getting a good deal for the RMT then the Labour left should waste no time in lining him up as their new leader.
  18. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    It is a learning curve. I’ve since recognised that the UK and American public are about 10-15% thicker and more racist/authoritarian than my initial estimates!

    I never for a second thought I’d see either the USA or UK teetering right on the very brink of fascism in my lifetime, yet here we are…
  19. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    MerseyRail has already settled for 7% but the Government is currently blocking any progress in the national talks
  20. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Is this all there is?

    It's a slightly different situation. That was part of business as usual; an annual salary negotiation between TSSA and the employer. It's not politically charged, nor headline news, London commuters weren't affected and the Grant Shapps wasn't involved, so was a bit easier in those respects. :)

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