TheDecameron
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He always struck me as a lightweight- a kind of Labour David Cameron. I also think he’s beyond his shelf life as far as a serious leadership bid goes. A Miliband would be good.
Still popular in the North, AFAICT. Doing a good job as mayor, and seems to stand by his principles.Speaking as a floating centrist, I always thought Andy Burnham seemed like a decent bloke with, I imagine, a broad appeal. Where does he figure in the true believer's firmament these days?
Speaking as a floating centrist, I always thought Andy Burnham seemed like a decent bloke with, I imagine, a broad appeal. Where does he figure in the true believer's firmament these days?
That I have a different opinion to yourself on one or two things, such as democracy, is not trolling.
Deliberately setting out to provoke is trolling.
The NEC is in charge of Labour, not the Leader. Whatever Burnham stands for, believes in and works towards, would quickly become irrelevant if he became leader of the Labour PartyHe strikes me as one of the very few politicians that has ever improved when given responsibility and placed under scrutiny. He seems to be doing a reasonable job as Mayor of Manchester and seems on the right side of many arguments, but as I’ve stated many times on this thread the issue here is the Labour party as an entity, it is way more thzn a leadership issue. It is IMHO conceptually unfit for purpose as it supports far too many things that so obviously need reform.
He always struck me as a lightweight- a kind of Labour David Cameron. I also think he’s beyond his shelf life as far as a serious leadership bid goes. A Miliband would be good.
You got me thinking. There’s a Tory Party bestiary which I can’t imagine replicated in any other political party. I mean, find me an equivalent of any of this lot-Surely D Miliband is the Labour David Cameron?
A small mercy I suppose, but people actually vote for these...things?And how could I have forgotten, the Honourable Member for Lichfield,
There can be no known other occurrence in nature, surely?
I don’t need to convince you of anything but I will say this in response to your question and labelling.
It is called frustration and anger at the EU.
Frustration the EU refuses to negotiate despite I assume having the ability to see there is a problem. Frustration they refuse to compromise on anything.
Anger the EU has no respect for the outcome of a democratic referendum held in this country, has expended much energy since 2016 attempting to keep the UK under its control and does not accept N.Ireland is part of the UK.
As for me being nasty, vindictive and spiteful because I’m supposedly happy for millions of people in EU countries to suffer. Your inference is wildly incorrect yet you’ve put some pretty nasty labels on me there. I do not for one moment believe millions will suffer in Europe should the EU collapse, that is most certainly not in my mind when I made that comment, interesting it is in yours though. There is no doubt whatsoever, should the EU collapse all of those countries will negotiate and agree workable trade deals and cooperation.
There was also something you said about me joining with brexiters in that wish for collapse of the EU. Perhaps you can show the evidence that over 17m people in the UK want the EU to collapse? That’s my own inference from your post. My understanding is ‘brexiters’ voted for the UK to leave the EU, I haven’t seen much clamour at all for wishing collapse of the EU. The EU certainly needs major reform to become properly democratic.
My lack of adoration of the EU may not make any sense to you and that’s fine. I have a different opinion than you do, yet I do not make a personal judgement of you based on my inference of what you write here nor on that difference of opinion.
What is your position on millions possibly suffering in the UK due to the EU refusal to compromise on anything? What is your position on the ‘big’ EU working to get the ‘small’ UK to agree to a remain deal disguised as a leave deal, despite the democratic referendum result here?
Note: Despite other inferences, I already agree the tories are bad, that they agreed a deal and that we voted to leave.
As we all now know, the NEC is appointed by the Elders of Zion.The NEC is in charge of Labour, not the Leader. Whatever Burnham stands for, believes in and works towards, would quickly become irrelevant if he became leader of the Labour Party
Or how about putting a temporary tax on home sales (I realise home buyers are already taxed), in order to reduce the overheating that is currently occurring, and as a means of reducing the national debt. It would stop the crazy gazumping and make homes more affordable for our young people, what’s not to like.I would like to use awareness of the national debt to argue for a rise in the tax take in the not too distant future - be it from VAT or income tax or some other means.
Unless you mean only taxing house purchase over a certain limit, then wouldn’t an overall tax mean that only the already rich could afford to move which would encourage gazumping and make houses less affordable for first time buyers?Or how about putting a temporary tax on home sales (I realise home buyers are already taxed), in order to reduce the overheating that is currently occurring, and as a means of reducing the national debt. It would stop the crazy gazumping and make homes more affordable for our young people, what’s not to like.
Isn’t that what stamp duty is for?Fair point how about any house sale above the national average which is currently about 250k and a different figure for London village.